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    SamBee
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    Sounds like science fiction to you? So did genetically engineered plants a few years ago, now they’re being grown.

    “Consumer companies are using brain imaging for ‘neuromarketing’ to understand consumer behaviour and elicit desired responses from customers.

    “There are also tools such as ‘brain decoders’ which can turn brain imaging data into images, text or sound.

    “All of these could pose a threat to personal freedom which we sought to address with the development of four new human rights laws.”

    http://www.timesofmalta.com/mobile/articles/view/20170426/technology/advanced-computers-may-be-able-to-delete-your-thoughts.646323” class=”bbcode_url”>http://www.timesofmalta.com/mobile/articles/view/20170426/technology/advanced-computers-may-be-able-to-delete-your-thoughts.646323

    #221948
    Willhewonder
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    So, maybe those aluminum foil hats are not such a bad idea after all! 😆

    #221949
    SamBee
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    Some pretty scary stuff is already here – and it’s not all tin foil stuff.

    We’re going to need radically different laws and ethics to deal with this, although certain folk would love to get hold of the technology.

    #221950
    DarkJedi
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    Willhewonder wrote:


    So, maybe those aluminum foil hats are not such a bad idea after all! 😆

    😆

    #221951
    NightSG
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    Oh great…now somebody’s going to send a rm -rf * to our brains and we’ll end up Southern Baptist. :(

    #221952
    SamBee
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    If we had this conversation fifty years ago and I told you that farm animals were going to be cloned, that eye problems would often be dealt with by laser and that someone from the other side of the world could hack into your computer and steal your money, you’d probably think I was talking rubbish. Two of these are now common, and animal cloning looks set to become more and more so.

    Our future will be just as weird and this is not as far fetched as we like to think.

    #221953
    dande48
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    We’ve already got advanced government AI, which records all our texts, picture texts, emails, and phone records. Of course, the individual service providers already share much of that information to marketers (looking at you Google). Not to mention, most people voluntarily put up the most personal information on facebook, not realizing “If it’s free, you’re the product”.

    There was also a leaked pentagon video back in 2011, about how the government had produced a “vaccine” which “inhibits religious fanaticism”. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gfTqfVeLHw. Is it legitimate? I don’t know. But if it is possible, you can bet the governement is working on it.

    I’m not saying this isn’t awful… but how much worse is it really?

    #221954
    LookingHard
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    NightSG wrote:


    Oh great…now somebody’s going to send a rm -rf * to our brains and we’ll end up Southern Baptist. :(


    Dang. We still wouldn’t be allowed to drink!

    So NightSG is a Linux nerd. Was this strip based on you?

    [img]http://i.imgur.com/z96dZ0x.gif[/img]

    #221955
    dande48
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    All hail the mighty glow cloud.

    #221956
    Willhewonder
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    SamBee,

    Seriously, I think there maybe something there, I just could not pass up the joke. I agree that this is an area we should keep tabs on.

    #221957
    NightSG
    Participant

    LookingHard wrote:

    So NightSG is a Linux nerd. Was this strip based on you?

    I can’t bring myself to look scruffy long enough to get that sort of beard, and I tend to limit suspenders to when I’m wearing certain suits.

    I’m more the guy who tries to get Linux running on random junk hardware; old tablets, routers, that sort of thing just for fun. Though I did once annoy a former boss by starting a remote X session on my 486 at home over a 28.8k modem, just to ssh back into the box I was physically at in an xterm and then step aside so he could telnet into the machine he was wanting to use. Took him a few minutes to figure out why there was so much lag trying to use a machine that was just 40′ away in the (locked, and the guy with the key was at lunch) server room.

    #221958
    nibbler
    Keymaster

    If computers are ever able to delete our thoughts I bet the first thing they’ll do is delete the thoughts that care whether computers can delete our thoughts… so I think we’ll be okay.

    #221959
    Heber13
    Participant

    Ever see the movie Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind?

    They are also going to try a brain transplant, and total head transplant.

    We are probably not far from cyborgs too.

    #221960
    Reuben
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    We’re already cyborgs. I’m currently using a cybernetic extension that fits in my pocket. The interface is high-latency and low-bandwidth in one direction, and depends on me dragging bony sausages over glass. The other direction is fast but lossy.

    If you have one and don’t think it’s integrated enough to qualify as a cybernetic extension, imagine going without it.

    #221961
    Minyan Man
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    I think that instead of computers being able to delete your thoughts, it could be smartphones.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGpVpsaItpU

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO_ZoKmTUQM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mHIg6be6wQ

    It’s happening everywhere.

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