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    Janes now
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    I stumbled across this website. Have you guys read this before? Your thoughts?

    http://puremormonism.blogspot.com/2010/06/why-im-abandoning-polygamy.html

    #168531
    Shawn
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    #168532
    Janes now
    Participant

    Lol thank you. I didn’t realize that there was already a topic about this blog. Thank you! 😳

    #168533
    Old-Timer
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    There’s already a thread somewhere in our archives about almost everything. 😆 😳

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    church0333
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    Oh. Brother. I have read that a long time ago. Some one is alway lying and I sick of it JS , BY PPP maybe they were all in on it.

    #168535
    Old-Timer
    Keymaster

    It’s hard for all to be in on something when all disagree so much on so many things.

    Frankly, that’s one of the things I love most about it all, even though it drives lots of people nuts. As I said in another recent post, we tend to complain about correlation, but then we turn around and complain about pre-correlation when everyone believed and taught the different things they believed.

    There are pros and cons to both. Accepting that is foundational to peace.

    #168536
    Janes now
    Participant

    Unfortunately it seems to be the situation when we try to answer the questions then more questions comes up. It is a never ending cycle for us all. I thought I had the important answers until I discovered the dark history of the church 😯 .

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    dash1730
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    Unfortunately it seems to be the situation when we try to answer the questions then more questions comes up. It is a never ending cycle for us all


    IMO, knowledge can be thought of as encompassed by a circle, and everything outside the circle is what we don’t know. As our knowledge grows, so does the circle and its circumference. Paradoxically, the more we know, the more we are exposed to what we don’t know!

    Therefore true wisdom, IMO, is to grow in humility as we grow in understanding. That’s why I have little patience for dogmatism, arrogance and hubris in religion or politics.

    #168538
    Shawn
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    I am writing on this thread because the first one is long and tangential.

    I might be going crazier. I read the blog post carefully last night and checked out several other sites and it might be worth considering. Is there a single verifiable record that existed before his death that shows evidence of Joseph practicing polygamy? I bet your initial reaction is to say “Of course there is!” I would like to know of such a source. What about the 1831 revelation?

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    This alleged revelation is described in a letter to Brigham Young written in 1861 by an early Mormon convert, William W. Phelps, thirty years after the supposed revelation. This was during a period when church leaders were justifying the practice and origins of plural marriage, particularly to Mormon splinter groups who did not agree with the practice…A reference was made to this revelation five months after its alleged date in a letter by Mormon apostate Ezra Booth to the Ohio Star on 8 December 1831, in which he refers to the “revelation [that the Mormon Elders] form a matrimonial alliance with the Natives”, but the letter makes no reference to polygamy. This letter is important because it confirms the authenticity of the revelation, but some regard it as problematic because had it mentioned polygamy Booth would have mentioned it in his anti-Mormon agenda. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_Latter_Day_Saint_polygamy


    It seems that all records and testimonies regarding Joseph’s wives came about AFTER his death. And here’s an interesting aspect: women could honestly say they were Joseph’s wife because they were sealed to him by proxy when he was no longer around to disapprove.

    This theory explains why Joseph vehemently preached against polygamy and repeatedly denied practicing it, but it would create other problems.

    Yeah, I’m going crazier.

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