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    Cadence
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    Dress codes are not so much about Godly things as much as making others comfortable to be around us. If someone shows up at church with a long beard, tattoos, and jeans everyone becomes uncomfortable. They may not say anything, and try to be polite but still members become very uncomfortable around such individuals. Getting everyone to conform makes it more comfortable for the leaders not to have to deal with the diversity.

    #145519
    SamBee
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    #145520
    Arwen
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    Cadence wrote:

    Dress codes are not so much about Godly things as much as making others comfortable to be around us. If someone shows up at church with a long beard, tattoos, and jeans everyone becomes uncomfortable. They may not say anything, and try to be polite but still members become very uncomfortable around such individuals. Getting everyone to conform makes it more comfortable for the leaders not to have to deal with the diversity.

    And this is true. I have watched as members squirm when a ‘not the cookie cutter’ person walks in.

    However, it also makes me laugh a little on the inside. If a long haired bearded man who had sandles and a robe walked in…what would happen. Throw on top of that the man had multiple piercings…yes I have to wonder if Christ walked into Sacrament with his long hair and beard in jeans would anyone recognize him or would they be uncomfortable with a long haired dude in jeans. I guess it’s just one of my hang ups, Mormons like to say they are children of God, but if that child comes in a different cover then they are not so much his children. Yet it was those lost children that Christ’s whole mission was about, because in the end we are all lost. He wasn’t hanging out with the clean shaven nicely dressed Pharisees and Sadducees, he hung out with Tax collectors and whores and sinners. meh. It just sticks in my craw that we judge on the outward instead of the heart, and sometimes we judge far too harshly…and don’t invite those who need Christ in, but make them feel unwelcome…and yet claim to be Christs Church.

    #145521
    Brian Johnston
    Participant

    LOL SamBee,

    Forget about 1960’s hippies with beards. That old rascal Rasputin was serious trouble! We should avoid the appearance of Rasputin.

    SamBee wrote:

    [img]http://wac.0873.edgecastcdn.net/800873/blog/wp-content/uploads/Rasputin-closeup-292×300.gif[/img]

    #145522
    clahcrah
    Participant

    Cadence wrote:

    Dress codes are not so much about Godly things as much as making others comfortable to be around us. If someone shows up at church with a long beard, tattoos, and jeans everyone becomes uncomfortable. They may not say anything, and try to be polite but still members become very uncomfortable around such individuals. Getting everyone to conform makes it more comfortable for the leaders not to have to deal with the diversity.

    This is one of the things I find very odd. I hang in a lot of circles that are not in any way considered alternative cultures. I am a man. I have long hair. I have a beard. I am a Doctor. I am a city councilor and Mayor pro-tem in my city. I didnt even run for office last term and was elected on write in votes.

    The only place I go where people are clearly uncomfortable with me is “The lords only true church where people love and respect everyone”. I have trouble understanding this.

    #145523
    clahcrah
    Participant

    Cadence wrote:

    Dress codes are not so much about Godly things as much as making others comfortable to be around us. If someone shows up at church with a long beard, tattoos, and jeans everyone becomes uncomfortable. They may not say anything, and try to be polite but still members become very uncomfortable around such individuals. Getting everyone to conform makes it more comfortable for the leaders not to have to deal with the diversity.

    This is one of the things I find very odd. I hang in a lot of circles that are not in any way considered alternative cultures. I am a man. I have long hair. I have a beard. I am a Doctor. I am a city councilor and Mayor pro-tem in my city. I didnt even run for office last term and was elected on write in votes.

    The only place I go where people are clearly uncomfortable with me is “The lords only true church where people love and respect everyone”. I have trouble understanding this.

    #145524
    SamBee
    Participant

    A few of the options –

    [img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5ioJqrf4fK8/TPzp9F99-8I/AAAAAAAAefs/xcO8rmEhknQ/s1600/beards.jpg[/img]

    I think the bottom row looks most sinister… I mean, from left to right, we have werewolf (or is it Wolverine?), Cthulu, Taliban, Anton La Vey and Planet of the Apes.

    #145525
    Old-Timer
    Keymaster

    Yeah, clahcrah, that is a shame and a MAJOR weakness of our current culture.

    Thanks for sharing that, btw. I am pretty sure I’ll be using it in some kind of leadership meeting in the future.

    Sam, :clap: 😆 :clap: 😆 :clap: 😆 :clap: 😆

    #145526
    SamBee
    Participant

    That covers a lot of the varieties of facial hair, although I notice disco wisp (on its own) is missing. (Also known as “hair lip” in the states) a kind of under lip moustache, and without a beard…

    There’s also that weird thing, where you have growths on the cheekbones just beneath the eyes.

    The Turks and Albanians have plenty of moustache styles, and the Indians have a few interesting ones too.

    #145527
    Tom Haws
    Participant

    SamBee wrote:

    I think the bottom row looks most sinister…

    I think the eyebrows look sinister.

    #145528
    Arwen
    Participant

    I had to bite my tongue today in RS. Apparently…two sets of earings will keep you out of the Celestial Kingdom….

    Never mind beards, or tatoos or multiple piercings…just a measely two holes in each ear are big enough sins to get one kicked out forever. 🙄

    Can someone, anyone, remind me what the Atonement was about….apparently I got it all wrong….

    #145529
    Old-Timer
    Keymaster

    **sigh**

    Our Elder’s Quorum President has a beard – and two of the older guys in our ward look like they stepped right off the pages of our Church History manuals. One of them looks like Joseph F. Smith’s twin brother. (Seriously, the first thought I had when I attended this ward and saw him sitting in the chapel was, “Wow, Joseph F. Smith is a member of this ward!!”)

    A couple of the older women in our ward have what could pass as beards, but that’s an entirely different discussion. 😆

    Also, the teenager who was confirmed today in Sacrament Meeting was wearing capri jeans and a blouse that rode the edge of her shoulder and showed her light blue bra strap. She’s a great young lady.

    #145530
    SamBee
    Participant

    Are monobrows allowed in the church?

    [img]http://www.bnl.gov/bera/activities/globe/kahlo_files/k2.jpg[/img]

    (Actually the wee guy behind Frida there has even more of a facial hair issue. As do I – I get through a lot of shampoo with fur like this.)

    #145531
    George
    Participant

    I was going to reply to this thread and the more I thought about it, the more I felt a gladness at having at the age of 72, a thick handsome head of hair (be it snow white). I’m doing better than my sons and several of my grandsons (I blame the wife, her father lost his hair around thirty). Somehow the whole question lost its importance and I stand tall and smiling in a David O. McKay sort of way. I add no more…

    #145532
    Tom Haws
    Participant

    :D :thumbup:

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