Mormon debate over caffeine puts me on edge

[dash1730]

Kirby hits it out of the park again with this substantive, but very funny look at Mormon culture 😆

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/lifestyle/54844008-80/caffeine-kirby-commandment-mormon.html.csp?page=2

[wayfarer]

Kirby hit it out of the park? I think he drove home three additional runs with this comment:

Kirby wrote:

Hey, if it’s possible to not live the gospel as well as you should, why isn’t it equally possible to live it so dogmatically that you part company not only with reason but with loved ones?

damn, this is really, really profoundly accurate.

[Old-Timer]

Kirby is a great voice or critique of Mormon culture – the Mormon version of Dave Barry. I love his stuff, and he’s 100% on target with this one.

[Forgotten_Charity]

wayfarer wrote:

Kirby hit it out of the park? I think he drove home three additional runs with this comment:

Kirby wrote:

Hey, if it’s possible to not live the gospel as well as you should, why isn’t it equally possible to live it so dogmatically that you part company not only with reason but with loved ones?

damn, this is really, really profoundly accurate.

That’s pretty much were I draw the line in my life. The line between is what I refer to as “the middle (balanced)way”. That’s a really great quote and one I haven’t heard put quite that way. Thanks for sharing.

[InquiringMind]

I really think that the anti-caffeine folk doctrine in the Church got started as a way to try to explain why tea and coffee were banned by the WoW, because there isn’t good medical evidence that tea and coffee pose significant health risks. So people had to come up with a reason for the ban, and the reason was caffeine. And if tea and coffee were banned because of the caffeine in them, then it makes sense that caffeinated soda should also be banned. But if we look at the tea and coffee ban as economically motivated and unrelated to caffeine content, then there is no reason to condemn caffeinated soda.

[Old-Timer]

or if we simply stick to the idea that we shouldn’t drink piping hot liquids . . .

[Forgotten_Charity]

Old-Timer wrote:

or if we simply stick to the idea that we shouldn’t drink piping hot liquids . . .

And there is “real” medical evidence for that. That is my official interpretation of WOW (no piping hot drinks)even though I follow church doctrine with this. I don’t drink piping hot drinks even if it ok in the WOW. But I’m glad there more details added to the WOW. We don’t need more micro managment. Thank Hashem for the holy ghost lol.

[Brian Johnston]

InquiringMind wrote:

But if we look at the tea and coffee ban as economically motivated and unrelated to caffeine content, then there is no reason to condemn caffeinated soda.

That would make for a very tough WoW indeed 😈

Anything we could not grow ourselves in our local community, that we would have to shell out cash to the “gentiles” for, should be forbidden! That makes for a very small grocery list, I guess. hehe

[blackout]

Perhaps God was showing great wisdom in predicting the advent of Starbuck’s on every corner and the invention of the Frappuccino. The prohibitions has nothing to do with caffeine- it’s the irresistible tastiness of frozen dessert coffee- who could resist that??? I don’t know about you, but last time I looked around my ward house- we are not a thin and fit bunch. We can’t control ourselves with ice cream and jello- let alone highly caffeinated desserts. The aforementioned beverage would be our undoing.

I of course am only speaking from conjecture.

[Heber13]

blackout wrote:

I don’t know about you, but last time I looked around my ward house- we are not a thin and fit bunch.

😆

Nomination for quote of the week!

[Forgotten_Charity]

Heber13 wrote:

blackout wrote:

I don’t know about you, but last time I looked around my ward house- we are not a thin and fit bunch.

😆

Nomination for quote of the week!

I second that motion. All in favor? 😆 That made my night, thanks! Guess it doesn’t take much. lol

[Kumahito]

Quote:

I don’t know about you, but last time I looked around my ward house- we are not a thin and fit bunch. We can’t control ourselves with ice cream and jello- let alone highly caffeinated desserts. The aforementioned beverage would be our undoing.

Definitely quote of the week. Rapier wit.

[Kumahito]

My favorite Kirby quote:

Quote:

Few subjects among Mormons are as debated as the commandment regarding caff-. Wait. There isn’t a commandment about caffeine. But you wouldn’t know that from listening to some of us talk about it. We sound like the Taliban discussing bacon.

He’s the Mormon Mark Twain.

[Forgotten_Charity]

Kumahito wrote:

My favorite Kirby quote:

Quote:

Few subjects among Mormons are as debated as the commandment regarding caff-. Wait. There isn’t a commandment about caffeine. But you wouldn’t know that from listening to some of us talk about it. We sound like the Taliban discussing bacon.

He’s the Mormon Mark Twain.

He’s right. I used to think differently almost all my life but working so close with many ultra Haredi rabbi for years I see the exact same thing among us as them, so much I can’t tell the differnce except for the subject matter. So when we study the new testament in church and comment on the rabbi about how rediculous they are being I just want to raise my hand lol.

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