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October 4, 2015 at 8:34 pm #205789
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ParticipantCross stitch a pillow with Ponderizing on it. – Mid week craft. October 4, 2015 at 8:35 pm #205790mom3
ParticipantGreat face book will explode. Ponderizing. Uggg. Imagine the memes. October 4, 2015 at 8:38 pm #205791Old-Timer
KeymasterPonderize sounds corny, but I like picking a scripture or concept and thinking about it for a set period of time. A month at a time works for me. It is much like my New Year’s Resolutions from a few years ago, and I learned a lot from doing that. Having said that, I dread the Facebook tsunami.
October 4, 2015 at 8:42 pm #205792Old-Timer
KeymasterThis is a good analogy about barriers and commandments. As with so much, the application by humans is what gets wonky and, in some cases, unnecessarily restrictive. The key, to me, is reaching a personal understanding of what we believe are godly commandments and what are human restrictions.
October 4, 2015 at 8:43 pm #205793mom3
ParticipantI too have scriptures that I ponderize, but I want to keep them mine. Not be shared in a group think. If I share it, it has merit in the moment, it’s not like a bowl of popcorn. For me when I am ponderizing I am really working on something. It’s between me and God. Thanks everyone for letting me figure out my own response.
October 4, 2015 at 8:45 pm #205794Joni
ParticipantI liked the ponderizing talk. Among other things, he mentioned discussing the scriptures online (yes! on the scary internet!) and discussing the scriptures with non- members. And he had great energy – I can always appreciate a speaker who doesn’t put me to sleep. This shark talk has absolutely lost me. I’m so tired of hearing about how the Church protects us from the wicked, wicked world. You know what? There are sharks inside the Church, too.
October 4, 2015 at 8:47 pm #205795Old-Timer
KeymasterYep, fear-based messages don’t work as much for me as love-based messages. I don’t think Jesus did what he did out of fear. I think he did it despite the dangerous nature of what he was doing. He lived a dangerous life – and it killed him in the end. We don’t understand that well enough.
October 4, 2015 at 8:54 pm #205796Old-Timer
KeymasterI like this approach much better – and it is an interesting juxtaposition immediately after the barrier example. I know the barrier example works for some people, but I appreciate the love-based message so much more. The same disclaimer applies for me as I wrote in my previous comment. Determining what we believe to be of God and what we believe to be of humans is the key.
October 4, 2015 at 8:59 pm #205797nibbler
KeymasterI think he only made up the word to create a mnemonic. I can’t get the image of Curly out of my mind. Curly: I don’t know Moe.
Moe: Waddaya mean you don’t know?
Curly: I’m ponderizin’ over here.
Moe: Well knock it off and believe already chowdahead.
October 4, 2015 at 9:04 pm #205798russdm
ParticipantThe current speaker at 2:00pm my time ( a few minutes at most before) mangled TSM’s name. Called him “Monsler” then “Monson”. It felt she was rushing through the name, being either uneasy or uncomfortable talking before people. Her talk was starting to feel like she was rushing to finish it though to me. I thought that people could pray for calmness, so they won’t be overly nervous or something. October 4, 2015 at 9:09 pm #205799amateurparent
ParticipantPrimary Voice, Utah accent, and story based on interaction with a toddler .. Ugh. I know I’m being overly critical .. But Primary Voice just shuts down my brain.
October 4, 2015 at 9:29 pm #205800Old-Timer
KeymasterListening to Elder Aoyagi brings back memories of my mission. I love the fact that he said he was a member for many years without a personal understanding of blessings during major trials – and the admission of doubt while he was suffering.
October 4, 2015 at 9:41 pm #205801amateurparent
ParticipantCarole Stephens is the First Counselor of the Relief Society. She gave the story of the toddler and the car seat. I may not have appreciated her Primary Voice, but I need to learn her name.
October 4, 2015 at 9:43 pm #205802Joni
ParticipantWhere is Bednar going with this? October 4, 2015 at 9:47 pm #205803Old-Timer
KeymasterI think he knows how many people are mocking and dismissing the calling of the new apostles and the criticism the Q12 face as “old men”. I think this is, essentially, a reply to that criticism. I think he is defending people he loves. I like that he has said more than once that the apostles have weaknesses and faults. I don’t begrudge him trying to defend his best friends. I also like the implication that they were weaker near the end of their lives and that their final messages weren’t their most powerful.
All other things aside, I appreciate what I think his motivation is.
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