October 2016 General Conference

[Ann]

Saturday Afternoon

I like the “Amen” added to “Joseph Smith’s First Prayer.”

[Joni]

I’m not finding Cook’s talk to be particularly helpful.

[nibbler]

lol Cook.

It’s a skipper.

[Shawn]

After the talk about Joseph Smith (the third or fourth speaker), I had heard enough and went mountain biking to seek peace. I listened to Israel Kamakawiwo`ole during my drive. Check out my pics from Diamond Fork, Spanish Fork Canyon:

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[Joni]

‘Gospel extremism’ is when you elevate one aspect of the gospel above all others. Kind of like what we do with The Family?

[Old-Timer]

Elder Cook’s talk isn’t one that moves me overall, since it is too orthodox in many ways for me, but I do love that he just called out “Gospel extremism” – including, explicitly, “expensive end-of-days preparation”. He just told members who take things further than the leadership to knock it off, and I appreciate that.

[ydeve]

If we are more devoted to a cause than the Savior and his teachings (which were primarily love for our fellow man), we are looking beyond the mark.

Seems like a reiteration of the commandment not to judge. Wish that was actually said.

[Ann]

Cook – “Jesus Christ is the mark.”

Still very authority-oriented. Gospel extremism is “taking a position that is beyond of contrary to church leaders.” So, unfortunately, in a big church that Christ himself can’t administer, there is more than one mark. I don’t know how to resolve this.

[Joni]

Mary Elizabeth Rollins was a plural wife of both Joseph Smith and Brigham Young. (This was a polyandrous sealing as she already had a living husband, Adam Lightner.) I knew the name sounded familiar, I’ve been listening to the Year of Polygamy.

[ydeve]

I think TBMs often conflate “the Gospel” with “the current understanding of church leaders.” The same thing is happening in Cook’s talk. Christ taught that when we teach more or less than his gospel it is evil, not “when we teach more or less than the opinion and culture of church leaders”

[Joni]

We have the privilege of holding the complete Book of Mormon in our hands.

Wait, what about the sealed portion?

[ydeve]

“The grace of God does not restore us to our previous innocent state.” It brings us to a different state with a different understanding. Even if some others do not understand that destination state.

[Joni]

I don’t think I’ve ever heard Annie Sullivan referred to as Ann.

[Old-Timer]

Joni, as gently as I can say this, we ought not make people “offenders for a word”.

There is plenty to cause some concern. Not including the sealed portion in that talk s not one of them.

[Old-Timer]

I don’t think I’ve ever heard Ann Sullivan referred to as Annie.

Life is interesting, isn’t it?

[Author]

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