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Absentminded
ParticipantI appreciate everyone’s responses. I feel strangely empowered knowing that I can believe whatever I want and that I am not “bound” to the mormonism I was raised in. It is somewhat paradoxical how it makes me like the church more. Now I can drink my near beer, think history is a crock, and appreciate the BoM as a tool/art that makes me feel good. I no longer care about popular opinions and beliefs held by some in the congregation..good for them. Makes it easier for me to participate. I’m not done studying the church history subject yet though. Absentminded
ParticipantDigging up a thread from the grave here…. The musical is hilarious but DIRTY!! <
The hasa diga eebowai song is horrible (the Africans start singing it English, so you’re not getting out of that one), so is all of the reference to genital mutilation and Joseph Smith curing his AIDS through sexual encounters with frogs. I did laugh at the line about JS getting visited by Moroni when he beamed down from the starship Enterprise and a few others. A lot of the songs are really cheesy and in good humor a la mormon movie style. You just have to watch out for the mouths on those Africans.Absentminded
ParticipantI have learned through experience in my life that people could write in their journals in pure honesty of what they observed, but entirely miss what actually ocurred because they were not privy to that information. Ie, they could write their observations of evidence, see that a punishment was meted, and be thoroughly convinced of the guilt of a certain party…But they would never know that the person was actually innocent unless that person or other parties took the time to show them otherwise. Simply put, the required bit of information was kept secret to protect the guilty party because the accused didn’t see it prudent to share or make it public. In this scenario, the innocent party wrote in their journal that they were innocent, but did not elaborate. 100 years from now, a historian looking at the aforementioned example would be certain of the guilt of the “innocent party” and that they were lying in their own journal. All of the people involved would be gone and only the observations and record of punishment would be available.
That’s why I think history is complete crap.
:thumbdown: So now I sit here trying to think of ways to resolve what I perceive as inadequacies in the whole mormon story. Especially the origins of the BoM and Pearl of Great Price. I can take them at face value for being a work of art able to bring a man closer to God, but I find it difficult to believe that they are ancient records.
I also suffer from issues relating to modern human remains hanging around from 13,000 years ago, assuming decay rates are constant. I just feel like the true story has never been revealed, or if it has been it was lost.
Throw in my disdain for fast and testimony meeting and that’s all I’m up against. haha.
Absentminded
ParticipantAre you in CA? (I wonder if I know you) My wife enjoys the book club and the interaction as well. You’re not alone in your feelings at church. And from my personal experience, the nursery is the BEST place in the world! I miss that calling a lot. I could have my doubts about the church in there, play with kids, not have to listen to anyone, etc etc. I got to know some of the parents of the kids, but never really did anything with the rest of the ward..which I guess is the only downside. I virtually have no friends in the ward as a result. I told the bishop about my doubts (oops) and he yanked us out of the nursery stating that we needed more friends, like that would cure my doubts.
On another note, it sounds like your life may be a little depressing right now too. Pardon me if I’m reading into things too far. I find it REALLY hard to go to church in that state. Sometimes we all need a little encouragement to get through the rough times. Having a crappy job and being an empty nester can really get you down at times. If you do feel a little depressed, you should read Burn’s book, The Feeling Good Handbook and potentially visit with a counselor. Don’t beat yourself up about your church performance.
Absentminded
ParticipantThanks for the welcome! :wave: I have so far found enough content to be a lurker for a while…
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