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If the Bishop indicates it’s a commandment, I suppose my answer could be that to some extent, we are all on different levels and at different levels of compliance with the large number of commandments we have to abide by, and that no one lives all commandments perfectly…paying tithing is something I would like to aspire to at some point, but I don’t feel passionate about it right now.[/quote] I would imagine they would ask why you wouldn’t give 10 percent to the church and would probably bring up that it was a commandment to pay it to the church. Since I am not you, I don’t know what I would respond since I’m not aware of your reasons. I don’t know if you want to share your reasons, though. But if you do, that would help us come up with a response @ amateur I definitely know it can work out. I had a member in my ward once who’s husband asked her to marry him the day they met! It took her 20 days for him to convince her to agree and they’ve been married around 30 years. So I do know it can work, and I always hope it does work. I just worry about people who get married too fast in general, because it IS a risk. I think it’s amazing when the marriages work out though! I’m glad you and your husband were able to make it work 
When my friend got back from her mission, her (stake? mission?) president or bishop, somebody, told her ‘it doesn’t matter who you marry as long as you both have your focus on becoming Christ-like, things will work out’. That sounds so wrong to me. That’s leaving out the fact that people change over time and may have other issues like addictions or anger issues or all sorts of other things that can’t easily disappear just because someone wants to be Christ-like. They can be fixed but it would take a long time and will be hard work. I kind of get the gist of it, but she told me this to justify someone in our ward marrying a girl only 3 months after his mission and he’d only just met her when he came home. That sounds like such HUGE a risk to me. You can’t really know someone in 3 months. He had just gotten back from a mission too and it just seems like he had been girl deprived and she was beautiful and Mormon so ‘Hey! Let’s get married! Right now!’ People jumping in head first like that really worries me. I feel like it is a very risky idea @ heber thanks for that. I guess it really could have been for a reason. I know it is one of many things that has led me to my faith crisis. Maybe God wanted me to go through this faith crisis? Who knows. I have been trying to figure out what it could mean for about a year, but i’m sure I’ll figure it out someday. I know some answers don’t come for decades My husband got an answer that the new policy wasn’t quite right. What he received was that it came through the Spirit but wasn’t the strategy God wanted them to use. However, God let’s his leaders have free agency just like us so sometimes they make mistakes, but as long as it doesn’t totally mess up His plans, He will let it happen because free agency is important to Him. That was what my husband felt and it made sense to me. I don’t like the first article you posted either because I feel like it’s saying you should be biased while praying that the prohpets must be right and if you get the answer that they’re wrong then you got the wrong answer. That screws with the belief of praying about whether the prophet is right or not. It turns it into ‘pray so you know it’s right, because it is, and that better be the answer you get’. There are so many examples in the scriptures of prophets making incorrect or bad decisions. I don’t like how now it’s turned into ‘the prophet is infallible’ when he is still a human and can make mistakes.
Old-Timer, good point Dark Jedi, do you have any thoughts on what else it could be? I’m open to other interpretations because those are the only two options I see and they’re not my favorite
I fail to see how it was the ‘right road’ still. I have never felt comfort from this story. I mostly brought it up because I thought someone may send it to me as an answer, but I feel it doesn’t answer my question, that was mainly why I talked about it Old-Timer, here is a link to his talk. https://www.lds.org/new-era/2005/07/wrong-roads-and-revelation?lang=eng I don’t know the answers to all of these, but in regards to the Temple Endowment one, whoever you talked to is giving you incorrect advice. You’re not supposed to be excited? Of course you’re going to be excited! Members as children sing about being excited to go into the temple one day and grow into youth preparing to go in. It is an exciting time. The temple can be very intense though and it’s too much for some people. It can feel very cult-ish while you’re in there sometimes. I personally enjoy it though and find symbolism in it, but there are members who are overwhelmed by it and they don’t desire to go back again. So just thought I’d make you aware of that. As far as you not being in the church long enough, that is for your bishop and stake president to decide, not a random member. I wouldn’t listen to that YSA anymore. Katz, I know I first heard about it through Facebook a couple days before the Christofferson explanation. There was an online article that wrote about it. It’s my understanding that someone in the meeting where they discuss the new handbooks leaked the info and that’s how the apostate got ahold of it and they wrote an article on it so it blew up on the internet for a day or two before Christofferson was able to talk about it. That’s my understanding, someone correct me if that’s wrong. Wow. I never saw this whole thing as a Milgram’s test, but I see it now. The members feel justified in doing it because the authorities say God said it was right. It makes me uncomfortable seeing people just go along with this, without even struggling with it. I think it’s one thing if it made them question things and they prayed about it and came to terms with it, but some people I know just went along with it without seeming really bothered by it at all. Sometimes I wonder just how far members would go if the prophet told them something was inspired by God. Is there anything they wouldn’t do? I haven’t seen the whole fireside, but what irritated me the most about this article was how he tells the youth to pray about whether it’s true, but insinuates what the answer is and that they need to get the ‘correct’ answer. It makes it seem like ‘pray if it’s true, but make sure you get the answer that the prophet is right or you better keep praying.’ Hello, Chickwit. Just wanted to welcome you and also advise to talk to your bishop as Minyan and Looking Hard suggested. I was given a calling once that I really had a hard time accepting and the bishop knew it was a difficult calling for me because i was having a hard time making friends in there, so eventually they found a new place to put me and I am much happier
I have never noticed our ward saying things like that either. It may just be certain areas. The ward I’m in now is very low key and most people where I live appear to be middle class to lower class so everyone is pretty laid back and i’ve never had anyone show off expensive things to me here, or heard about them in sacrament.
