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Exactly, you have no idea what a good set of shoulders does for a man!! NOT!!! Too much tradition plays to big a role in these types of issues. A women with a large chest can still show off lots of cleavage with the square neck garment tops, but as long as the shoulder is covered, it’s A-Okay. Common sense needs to play a larger role in these types of decisions. I feel how lenient a leader is, is more of a personal thing than what the handbook says. I once had a Stake President that was a very harsh man. I repented of serious sins, and did my best to tell him everything. A few years pass, I am living my life, and am feeling guilty about an event in college that I had forgotten to tell the SP about. I tell my then-current leader about the event, which happened before all of my other sins that I had repented of in the past with the SP. I had not done anything after that repentance to question my temple recommend status. My then-current leader took away my temple recommend for 6 months, but I was still able to take the sacrament. What did this teach me? Don’t confess sins of the past that aren’t up to a certain level. I figure if I am not committing adultery or murdering people, I probably don’t need to tell some guy that could be having a power trip, or is looking to exercise his delegated power in a way that would hurt the situation more than help.
Nothing irks me more than men’s garment tops. I am rather athletic and have large arms, and all of my shirts have varying widths of arm sleeves on short sleeve shirts. When I put on a polo shirt and the garment sleeve is so wide that it bunches a number of inches I get instantly pissed off (for lack of a better word). I have to plan my garment and shirt combos to accommodate the terrible sleeve design on the garments. Even on all of my dress shirts, I wear a slim/tailored fit so I am not swimming in fabric. I have to have my wife help straighten out the sleeve, because I can’t get in there to make it look decent. I cannot tell you how mad I get at my garments specifically for this reason. Give me a tighter fitting garment top that isn’t made of the same material as the extra support bottoms, those things are so HOT! Or is that immodest? /End Rant I feel you Daeruin. Boy do I. I am very similar in being introverted. I will often look down the hall way, and see someone I don’t want to talk to. I usually choose another way to get to my destination. I hate small talk, and will avoid telling people I’m going on trips, because they will ask how it was when I get back. I hate that part of returning. Did I mention I hate small talk? It’s worthless, and I don’t want to hang out with the person most likely anyway. I’d agree with others that finding a calling for introverts is hard. I never attend ward activities either. I have 1 good friend who is a church member, the rest (2-3) that are not. I like it that way. I’d say there is nothing that should force you to become more extroverted, unless that is something you want. My cousin who is a serious introvert, a little awkward even, thinks he needs to be more extroverted. He has been working on it, so congrats to him, he became a bishopric member. This is his chance.
I respect people’s space, and hope they would be the same way with me. Being an introvert is not a bad thing, just as being an extrovert isn’t either. I would agree with a previous comment about introverts appearing less “warm and welcoming, loving” though. But that is merely on the outside.
–I want my comment to address the Scouting portion of your concerns– I find that scouting is very dependent on what the parents put into the program almost as much as the leader directly the program itself. I am currently the leader of the least helped, least cared for part of the scouting program, 11 year olds. Who cares about the 11 year old scouts? Practically no one. They are still in primary, so that puts their funding under the primary program. Yet as an extension, they generally don’t care about the progress because they don’t realize that they are still in charge of those scouts. While the 12-18 has a leader for every age bracket, and a Scoutmaster. The 12-18 year old groups really don’t interact with the 11 year old scouts because they don’t have the priesthood yet. Where does that leave 11 year olds? Lost in the middle because they don’t fit in either place.
As far as the 11 year old scout troop, it can be a great experience, or mediocre. I myself have no kids that are even close to 11. My kids aren’t even in primary. Yet I am the leader (probably because I am an Eagle Scout, and no one else would say yes to the calling). I try my best every week with the 6 kids that I have. My main goal is to progress them to at least Tenderfoot and hopefully 2nd Class. Having to arrange camp-outs, and activities can be tough when doing everything alone. That is why the 11 year old scout’s parents play such a huge role. Without a parent that cares, their kid will never progress. If a kid doesn’t seem to care, or can’t be controlled in meetings, I have to focus on the others that really want to progress and learn. That’s how I plan my meetings as well. So far I am 1-2 on kids getting a rank advancement before turning 12. Soon, I will be a little better at 2-3. But it’s only because those parents cared enough to bring their kid to activities, and help out with camping trips and other events outside the weekly meeting. Hate to sound as I’m venting, but parent help is the key. As soon as the kids hit high school, they had better have a parents guidance, or there is no chance for Eagle. It’s that simple. (At least that is what my parents told me, and why i achieved Eagle before High School, as I never went to another mutual meeting when I was involved in school sports, working, etc…)
DarkJedi- How is your service on the HC going? I am new here, but have been fascinated with this thread. I admire your willingness to serve and serve true to yourself when there are many factors that could have kept you from doing so. I am impressed that the SP followed inspiration to call someone that didn’t fit the mold that you generally see. (In their ward usually, have grown up with them, or already have their “trust” due to other factors). Do you have an update on the service you’ve rendered, or asked to do, or speaking assignments you’ve performed? I hope I’m not prying, I am just genuinely impressed with the things that have been laid out in the topic.
