[Ann]

Reuben wrote:

Ooh, the gospel challenges us to become something. That’s good.

(Favorite DHO talk, “The Challenge to Become,” October, 2000.)

[Ann]

Old Timer wrote:

This is a doctrinally rich exposition of theology by Elder Oaks, no matter one’s agreement or disagreement. We don’t get many of those, except from Elders Oaks and Holland.

I missed it – fielding texts about Elder Clayton. Technology downside.

[Ann]

Old Timer wrote:

I understand, Ann – but Pres. Monson definitely talks of Jesus as much as anyone. That is important to remember and mention to our kids. Often, he talks about Jesus and love and service – and nothing else.

Done.

[Ann]

Back to Elder Rasband- I thought it was one of the more “real” and practical talks I’ve heard. No name-dropping (Huntsman) and it did make me think of how I discard first impressions.

[Ann]

L. Whitney Clayton – This is just such an unsettling approach. People have options. They don’t need to just pay tithing and wait a lifetime. They can go elsewhere and experiment with Christian living. Frustrated.

[Ann]

Can I go back to Pres. Monson? I’m thinking about one of my kids. She’s hearing that “a testimony” is about the Book of Mormon and Joseph Smith and priesthood authority. She’s not hearing, “Do you believe in Jesus Christ as Savior and Exemplar? Then this is the church for you.”

[Ann]

I’ll just say that I’m not a fan of this article, and hope LDS Living will get more selective.

[Ann]

nibbler wrote:

2) I keep getting hung up on “if ye have not charity, ye are nothing” and that’s the second time this was said today. It’s too black and white for my tastes… and does a person claiming another person is “nothing” have charity? Meh.

I just happened upon 1 Peter 4:8, (I think, lost my quote to paste) about how charity covers a multitude of sins. That’s less poetic but more real to me.

[Ann]

Coming from the slim pickings of the women’s broadcast, these talks struck me as great. DFU’s was especially timely in our house. I like that HBE never runs out of examples of correcting himself/being corrected by the Spirit.

[Ann]

Since he doesn’t often strike me as empathetic, I just liked hearing him speak to pain and misunderstanding he observed around him.

[Ann]

If one of them came to you with plans to join another church and wantedto discuss and have some input from you, what would be on your short list?

[Ann]

Old Timer wrote:

Probably, Ann – but I am not going to focus on that aspect when the message itself was so powerful and needed in the Church.

This was a direct rebuke of the culture that bothers us so much and the judgmentalism that has hurt so many. I need to respect and honor that.

Compare it to Elder Soarres’ talk. That one is a true example of simplistic generalities.

I see what you’re saying. I guess the open question re. the pace of change is whether the church can hit the sweet spot.

[Ann]

Drat. Was driving during Holland’s talk. I’m anxious to read the transcript.

[Ann]

Old Timer wrote:

I LOVE that he kind of dissed one of the phrases I loathe: “applying the Atonement”

I agree.

[Ann]

Bro. Bragg – I enjoyed this!

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