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  • in reply to: Book of Mormon Translation #238012
    Cadence
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    That is a lot of speculation for me. Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps.

    in reply to: Is It Arrogant to Pray? #238603
    Cadence
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    I don’t think it is arrogant to pray and ask for things you need. It may however be arrogant to believe you will get an answer.

    in reply to: You Can’t Handle the Truth! #238554
    Cadence
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    Some people would say the truth is subjective, truth is relative to their position and experience. I think Mormons are that way. They can claim something is truth because anecdotally it is confirmed to them, That is why so many people will cling to notions that are just wrong. There are flat earthers, holocaust deniers, and all sorts of strange belief systems not really supported by the truth, or as I Like to say the facts.

    The problem I see with this line of thinking is its detrimental effects on future generations. I use an example from my early days. I distinctly remember being tight in Seminary the earth was 6000 years old and there were no dinosaurs. I am old but the 70s were not that long ago that geology had proven the true age of the earth. I had a teacher who clung to a false notion because it was his world view in contradiction of obvious facts. Not a big deal you may say but I bought it as an impressionable teenager. I went on a mission believing it. Then I took a entry level anthropology class in college, then a geology class. It took me the semester to wrap my head around fossils and the age of the earth.

    I had to go through that because some seminary teacher could not adjust his world view to fit the obvious facts. To deny imperical evidence in our modern age of science and reason, is a disservice to the generations that come after you. To saddle future generations with ideas that are factually incorrect is intellectually dishonest.

    In my world there are things we know, things we have a good idea about, and things we don’t know. To take something we know and turn it around to fit a belief system or world view is dishonest.

    I can be honest and believe at the same time. I can be honest and say I don’t understand this or that, but I will believe to fill in the gaps, and hope for future knowledge. But to believe on basis of altering facts to make you feel more comfortable is not right, and you then advance those beliefs to your children.

    It is hard to have a system, or set of beliefs you have followed for some time and change when imperical evidence is laid before you, but it is the right thing to do. If not for yourself, but your children.

    in reply to: Kirby is the best #238520
    Cadence
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    If people are judged by the intent of their heart I think she is probably OK.

    If the leaders really believe their preached doctrine they seem rather willing to cut her off from her husband and family for eternity. Makes you wonder who is the bad guy here. Send rather harsh to make a point.

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    in reply to: The Church’s Obsession with "Worthiness Interviews" #238494
    Cadence
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    Worthiness interviews will stop when members stop allowing them. It is sad in a way how much power many are willing to concede to the church leadership. Just get enough members to say no and the leadership will change in a blink to keep members from leaving.

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    in reply to: Questioning the Scriptures #238310
    Cadence
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    I have often said scripture especially in the church is very cherry picked. If you take the Bible maybe 3% is used. Mostly just those that fit the narrative. It’s a little better with the BofM but not much

    If you take a bible and just randomly open it and read a page more than likely it will not make much sense. You have to have it framed In specific belief system to be coherent.

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    in reply to: Can We Talk about The Atonement? #238249
    Cadence
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    All seems a little complex to me. I tend to think there is a lot of human thought and behaviors that modeled this plan.

    I hope God is less legalistic and more welcoming.

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    in reply to: Another TR and Garment Issue/Question #238286
    Cadence
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    I predict garments will be eliminated from everyday wear within 10 years. It will all be a moot point then.

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    in reply to: Put the Fun in Mormon #238164
    Cadence
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    I can recall a number of major activities we did in my youth. Things that would never happen today. It was so much fun in those days. Probably because we were not obsessed with keeping everything on a spiritual level. We might have said a blessing on the hot dogs roasting on the fire but that was about it.

    Last youth conference I participated in as a leader I thought the kids were going to revolt. Every action had to be tied to some perceived spiritual message. So so boring.

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    in reply to: The Big Universe #238182
    Cadence
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    Old Timer wrote:

    LDS theology has the capability of handling that issue quite well by talking about organizing specific eternal matter in specific locations, not “creating everything” – especially from nothing.

    Sort of my point. How can any god or multiple gods organize that that much matter? Let alone control it all. Are they making all the planets spin and every electron behave correctly? Or do these gods just take some stuff that was already there and make little planets here and there? If so where did the stuff come from in the first place?

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    in reply to: New visitors welcome TV commercials #237675
    Cadence
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    I think in some ways the church made me a better person, but I can not think of a way I made the church better

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    in reply to: Coddling of the American Mind #237726
    Cadence
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    It’s not popular in today’s culture but I am a believer in boot straps. Life to a great degree is what you make it.

    Some need help. Some need lots of help. Many don’t need nearly as much help as they ask for.

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    in reply to: The challenge to be baptized #237962
    Cadence
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    Really they don’t know where the idea came from. That I find hard to believe.

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    in reply to: Ca$h Money #237697
    Cadence
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    40 billion sitting in the stock market is not going to convert people.

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    in reply to: Are we the church of the WoW? #237847
    Cadence
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    It may be that Mormons like to distinguish themselves from other sects. This is one very observable way to do that.

    Also members tend to look for markers of their obedience. This is any easy check mark for some, so it is touted

    On the spectrum of concerns Jesus has I am not sure this registers.

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