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  • in reply to: Why Did Only Women See Jesus on Easter Morn? #146473
    consiglieri
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    But could they get a driver’s license?

    in reply to: Tarot cards #146104
    consiglieri
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    I had a deck of Tarot cards when I was a kid back in the early 1970’s and tried to learn some of the basic lay-out patterns and how to interpret them.

    I recall the deck was supposed to be shuffled three times prior to laying out the cards, by the person whose fortune was going to be told.

    It didn’t take long for me to realize that if the same person were to shuffle the cards again (3x) for a second fortune, the odds were against the second lay-out being remotely similar to the first. 😮

    All the Best!

    –Consiglieri

    in reply to: The priesthood ban: A "Possible Mistake" #146269
    consiglieri
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    I think it is a great quote and helps show President Kimball’s humility.

    My only problem with it is the assumption that the “Negro Doctrine” started when the LDS Church was organized in 1830.

    All the Best!

    –Consiglieri

    in reply to: Pace Memorandum? #145458
    consiglieri
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    SamBee wrote:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pace_memorandum

    How did this one play out? Just your average 1980s US witch hunt?

    One of the most interesting things that happened as a result of the leaking of this memo to the Tanners is that it exposed for the first time the Committee on Strengthening Church Members which exists for the apparent purpose of creating files on members considered potentially dangerous.

    You may find it hard to believe, but this committee was organized by President Ezra Taft Benson . . .

    All the Best!

    –Consiglieri

    consiglieri
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    mercyngrace wrote:


    On the other hand, what should they say to discourage the repeating of these FPRs that wouldn’t sound as if it diminished the spiritual experiences they have had?

    I haven’t seen the Savior myself, but let me tell you about this other really cool experience I had . . .

    (Nice seeing you, mercyme!)

    All the Best!

    –Consiglieri

    consiglieri
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    I have been a member of the Church for 33-years and used to believe with all my heart that the apostles had indeed seen the Savior, imagining it as a rite of passage to apostleship.

    Over the years, though, I have listened closely and heard strong indications (such as from President Hinckley) that this in fact is not the case. (Or consider Elder McConkie’s final testimony in General Conference.)

    I have no problem with this. The problem I have is with the manner in which this canard is propagated in the Church, even by the apostles themselves, who try to convey that they have seen Jesus Christ while not actually saying they have seen Jesus Christ, usually couched in an “apostolic witness” with a strong emphasis on the word “know.”

    It seems apparent that the apostles know the message they are conveying and the faith-promoting rumour they are keeping alive by doing so.

    I find this somewhat disconcerting.

    All the Best!

    –Consiglieri

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