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ray your picture reminds me of jims pancakes…have you heard of him? every time i see someone cooking i think of jim and his awesome pancakes. :thumbup: my husband was told once that he could not help pass the sacrament :think: because he was wearing blue. i had no idea it wasnt an official rule. im sorry that happened to your son. im filing this information away incase it ever comes up again.thank you! as for my MIL problems, we have long since cut off contact with that toxic, crazy, loon.
:thumbup: My husband has come to the conclusion that LDS or not, his mother is very very very toxic for him, and all of his relationships.i know that my original perception of the LDS church would be different if i had had a different experience first getting introduced to it. Maybe if i had come into a larger ward without her in it, I wouldn’t have felt like I needed a scarlet N for Nonmember, not-worthy, what have you.
but then i think about all of my issues with the church as a whole, and I realize that even if joseph smith himself had tried to sell me on mormonism from the get go, I would not be able to reconcile a few major issues. I can get over it being a patriarchal establishment. I can get over blacks not having the priesthood. there are ways to justify it. there are softer lines to walk. but i can not get over the secrecy/lies reguarding prop 8, i can not get over the donation ammounts and that the church hasn’t lost it’s tax exempt status. I can not get over the lack of empathy for gay people and their families, and i can not get over the idea that somehow, i, as imperfect as i am, are better than the other 6 billion people in the world because i am white, american, and LDS. by that i mean that if it is Gods church, why do so few people have access? etc.
something that really boggles me is polygamy. on the surface, the old line of “there just werent enough men, they did it to survive” is okay, until you dig a little deeper. until you realize just how many wives JS and BY and all the others had. That some of them were very very very young, already married, etc.
I am a monogamous person…and I find polygamy very disgusting. It just rubs me the wrong way, in the church or out of it. The idea that we might be practicing that in the eternities sickens me. The fact that nobody, in all their ‘devine inspriation’ can come up with a simple yes or no for that one, really, really bothers me.
i dont believe in “milk before meat”. why? because guess what? the meat went bad while you were milking the cow.
i don’t believe that i should have to stand up in front of an audience of judgmental strangers and “know” something that you just can not prove.
i don’t believe that it is okay that there are no black general authorities. that if “god wanted a black prophet, he would put one on that path”. oh okay. so god controls our destiny, and yet we have agency. which is it? or is it both, when you need it to be, to justify whatever line you are trying to sell?
i dont believe i should be asked to give 10% of my income to the church, when i would have to ask for it back that same week to help pay my bills. and i especially dont believe i should do that if i have no clue what my hard earned money is going to be used for within the church. i refuse to fund another prop 8.
i could go on, but there are just so many things.
thanks greg! I am having a jolly good time reading through older threads…
as for not being born and raised in the church, yeah, I think that is a part of my problem, actually..A big part of my conversion was trying to fit in, and feeling like it really is all about personal revelation etc. but then fast and testimony meetings really bothered me..it sounded like brain washing, like everyone was standing up agreeing with each other about how ‘right’ we are and how grateful we should be to be right..i dont know. not being able to lose the outsider’s perspective has made accepting a lot of the church very difficult for me.
anyway. nice to meet you greg!!!!!
