[grobert93]

nibbler wrote:

The lord may not but church leaders really seem to.

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I am going to tell you what your Bishop is going to tell you when you get up here. While your intentions to go to the deaf branch are noble, they are going to want you to attend your first ward, and then have your records moved to the second ward.

You probably won’t like my answer but it is my understanding that church attendance is mandatory if you attend BYU-I and you almost certainly are going to have to attend your church approved ward in order for it to “count” towards that requirement.

The relevant portion from the handbook of instruction:

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13.6 Membership Records

Membership records are to be kept in the ward where the member lives. Exceptions, which should be few, require the consent of the bishops and stake president(s) involved and the approval of the Office of the First Presidency. To request an exception, the stake president(s) sends a letter to the Office of the First Presidency for approval.

You never know. I think the stake president would be in a better position to know the needs of the stake and you may get one that says “Sure, the ASL ward could use another person.” You won’t know until you ask and I think that process would start with the bishop in whatever ward you end up in.

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That is very common to be in two different wards for different semesters. The wards change drastically every semester, you will not be alone in your moving around.

Sounds to me like you wouldn’t have a year of being around the same core group even if you stayed in the same ward.

I don’t think you’ll run into any problem at all belonging to one ward, doing what it takes to be counted as active in that ward in order to maintain the university standards, and visiting another ward on the side – meaning you show up for the meetings but you don’t hold callings in the ward you want to visit. Double church. I guess it can last as long as you want to keep that up.

Selfish or not, I would much rather dedicate my time and energy getting callings that can help the Deaf group, as I have a place in my heart for them. I have done as much as I can in Wisconsin to help the few Deaf here and it’s amazing. I hope that the stake president or whoever I get in contact with can understand my perspective and arrangements can be made. I know that BYU-Idaho has requirements and I respect them. It’s just unfortunate that they are so strict that I could be seen as “apostate”.

[grobert93]

Thanks for your warm welcomes! Although I will not be daily active on here, I am already finding a home

nibbler wrote:

grobert93 wrote:

I served a mission in Houston Texas, using ASL. Due to the nature of the Deaf culture, I have become more blunt and have learned different view points of the church.

I don’t know much about that culture. Are deaf people typically more blunt? In what ways? The culture of the country I served my mission in could be very blunt with certain subjects. For instance people thought nothing of saying “Fat Billy” or “Ugly Martha” when saying “Billy” or “Martha” was too ambiguous. I got a label too. I’m still self-conscious about it. :silent:

Also, in Houston does ASL have an accent? If it does you should sign a blaug entry about it. :angel:

Welcome to StayLDS.

The Deaf have been shunned by society forever. Just like black people in the past, they have been treated unfairly and looked upon as stupid, animals or unintelligent. All because of a physical limitation.

So because of this, they are a closed community and share things with each other very easily. It’s a fascinating culture. Since they don’t accommodate politically correctness from us as the world gets offended over red cups at coffee shops, they are seen more and more as blunt. They are as we used to be in the past, but since we changed the contrast is more obvious now.

Anyway, they say things as they are because they are a visual people. What you see is what you say. Are you pregnant or fat? Boy you look tired today, your eyes are bagging! That makeup is pushing it, you look more like a clown. Although more extreme examples, these show how the deaf express themselves. So I accept the culture to state things how they are. On my mission when teaching the law of chastity, I told the Deaf to not have sex before marriage, that masturbation was wrong and looking at naked people wasn’t righteous. I clarified that having sex with the person you are married is what God wants, but having sex with two people (instead of saying cheating with another person) is wrong. I have signed penis, breast, sex and more. There’s no substitute.

Yes, there are variations to signs in Houston vs Chicago vs Salt Lake City (learned the accents in utah at the MTC, then had to change in houston, then had to change again coming home to wisconsin). It’s hilarious, there’s even gangster signs!

[grobert93]

Roy wrote:

As the father of a ten year old daughter, I love Taylor Swift.

I think that is awesome that you made the lesson relevant and got everyone’s attention and participation.

I know that I would have stayed interested just to see how the lesson tied back to Taylor Swift.

I didn’t know how the celebrity would be received in a priesthood lesson but I was surprised and delighted to have positive comments. I think when you are frank with people and relate to them in ways they truly can, it makes the lesson come to life. I am glad you enjoyed it!

[grobert93]

http://introvertedrm.blogspot.com/2015/12/the-doctrine-of-christ-talk-given-may.html

Here’s a link to my talk I gave a while back. I will update it later with direct links to the sources I quoted. Hope you enjoy!

[grobert93]

Thank you for your comments!

Heber13 wrote:

LOVE the talk! How was it received?

Well people seemed to like it enough to ask me 6 months later for copies of the talk.

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