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  • in reply to: Am I Target? #172956
    Heavy_Laden
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    Good point mackay11.. Harry Reid still says he is LDS and he speaks about all sorts of things that the Church doesn’t agree with.

    in reply to: Am I Target? #172954
    Heavy_Laden
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    Sorry to hear about your lack of sleeping. I have had that happen many times and it is a real bummer.

    As I was reading your post, something came to mind. I have been saying that FB is not a good thing for people and this is an example of that. FB gives people a podium to express their views, something that people didn’t have 10-15 years ago. Back then, the only way people heard opinions was word of mouth, paper newsletters and computer bulletin board posts. Now people have 200+ friends and not all of them are “friends”. If you express something that is unpopular or controversial, word gets out within minutes. It ruins people’s lives and destroys family relationships.

    I am not advocating not voicing your opinion on Church matters online, just pick a good venue for it. FB is a bad venue for just about anything. I personally use my FB account to repost George Takei’s Star Wars and Star Trek posts or I tell people that I am having a good day. I try to keep it positive, funny and uplifting. :thumbup:

    I don’t think having a strong opinion on a controversial topic is bad at all. Many Catholics, who have similar views as a Church as LDS does, still take communion and speak out for equality. I believe this issue will be a non-issue sooner or later. I believe Church should welcome anyone to worship, regardless of their preference.

    in reply to: Funny How This Happens Sometimes #173022
    Heavy_Laden
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    F&T meeting is a mixed bag. All the years I used to go, I enjoyed it. There has been some “interesting” speakers up there. We all profess our faith and show gratitude in different ways. It is the a raw, unedited Gospel and can be uplifting. When I went up there, I always tried to blend in testimony and tie it into an event that I was grateful for. It always went over good. Oh course, it would require a bit of thinking prior to going up there.

    Hymns are awesome, even the unsingable ones. :) I especially like when the organist ups the volume a bit. I want God himself to hear it, in praise! We had a Teacher play one Sunday and it was fantastic! He almost blew the roof off the building. :clap:

    in reply to: Talking to the kids about tithing #172790
    Heavy_Laden
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    Conversely, since you are the wage-earner, one could argue that you pay whatever the hell you want, and she has to deal with it. But that’s not fair to her.

    Take it from me, that tactic doesn’t work and will create friction in the home. IMHO, that kind of ‘tude is something Lucifer would capitalize on in a hurry. Anger, resentment and jealousy are all things that can tear a family apart. As someone who attempted to take the free agency away from my spouse by TELLING her to go to Church, take it from me, it leads to harden hearts and no progress. I didn’t know what I was doing when I tried it, I actually attempted to MAKE someone do something. It wasn’t right and a BIG regret for me.

    Peace in the home softens hearts and eventually changes people’s minds. Tithing will have be a group effort. If it is hopeless, than a visit to the Bishop or SP is in order.

    in reply to: Am I Target? #172949
    Heavy_Laden
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    I didn’t spend a lot of time on any of those boards, it is just the few threads I clicked on. I am not familiar with those other sites.

    To tell you the truth, I was surprised on how many LDS boards are out there. This one is just right for me, I guess I am not into debating Church topics online. I would rather be the voice of reason than swinging the battle axe around.

    in reply to: Am I Target? #172947
    Heavy_Laden
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    NOM sounds like a Lehi’s dream with the “A great and spacious building, symbolizing the pride of the world.” It was a site that I didn’t feel comfortable navigating. No offense to the people running it or those who like going there, it is my POV.

    in reply to: Am I Target? #172943
    Heavy_Laden
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    Old-Timer wrote:

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    Too bad you don’t have more publicity like the MormonThink editor.

    FWIW, I don’t want that type of approach or publicity. I believe he is fighting the Church openly, and I have no desire to do that.

    And there are PLENTY of sites out there that are run by people who desire to fight the Church. This site is different, but suffers from being guilty by association. It has a different message, one of support instead of hate. I like that and will continue to be found on this site and nowhere else.

    in reply to: Talking to the kids about tithing #172784
    Heavy_Laden
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    If they are active members of the Church, I would let them learn it for themselves. They do spend many Sundays talking about tithing, so chances are they have heard that lesson many times.

    in reply to: My talk for tomorrow #172393
    Heavy_Laden
    Participant

    How did it go over? Care to post a transcript?

    in reply to: A Time for Change #172863
    Heavy_Laden
    Participant

    Wow, what a great post! I feel the same way about the Church. I firmly believe that LDS spends more time trying to make everyone perfect, instead of accepting those who aren’t. I was a prime example of someone who constantly tried to be the ideal LDS saint, who couldn’t ever get to that point. Why couldn’t the leadership in LDS simply accept those who are different and stop pressuring them to change? Jesus Christ Himself spent a lot of time teaching those who needed spiritual help. As a Church, LDS does a poor job in my opinion, with those who fall a little short. Their disciplinary system itself is enough to scare people away. Who in their right mind would take a chance on being punished by the Church if they don’t quite stack up? It’s like putting up a “No Trespassing” sign at a place that is supposed to be a sanctuary from the world.

    I believe that the Church will eventually address these issues. Based on what I have read here, there are many of us who have either questions, doubts or just feel rejected. Boards like this could be a great help to those who need it. I do worry about apostasy and if we would be accused of this because we post here. I do hope that someone in Salt Lake reads and respects this board and it’s members. There is a lot of good stuff in these posts that the Church could use to get a vibe on those who are struggling or looking for answers.

    God bless you and I hope you can find peace and support.

    in reply to: A question for you all as I process #172426
    Heavy_Laden
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    I can understand how difficult parents can be. I have had a few problems myself, especially when I married my Wife. They were disapproving but now they treat her like family.

    My advice is to only talk about things that you know your parents would be interested in, at least for awhile. Allow that relationship to move slowly and not talk about topics that might be offensive. It might take years, but eventually everyone will be able to talk freely about anything. You obviously care about your parents and want your kids to know who they are. Take baby steps and don’t expect too much too soon. It’s like dating, you don’t bring up things to upset your boy/girlfriend right away if you want to continue dating.

    I don’t know if this makes sense, but good luck with your parents!

    in reply to: God’s plan for me? #172810
    Heavy_Laden
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    Yes, the private conversations is something I have a problem with. I was “encouraged heavy” to go on a mission by family, even though I wasn’t active. I don’t think that would fly post “Bar raising” Missionary standards.

    in reply to: God’s plan for me? #172808
    Heavy_Laden
    Participant

    It wasn’t anything here, I was just commenting on stuff I have read from people’s stories. :D I like your approach, which is why I came here instead of one of those other sites.

    in reply to: God’s plan for me? #172806
    Heavy_Laden
    Participant

    http://forum.staylds.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4436 – is an example. There are others but don’t have time to refind them.

    in reply to: God’s plan for me? #172803
    Heavy_Laden
    Participant

    Thanks Roy and Heber13 for the great responses.

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    Heavy_Laden wrote:I love serving the Church, it is a way to keep me on the right path.

    Me 2. One reason I stay. I really think it helps me, when I understand it correctly and apply it correctly. Do you talk to you wife about this and how you feel? Does she understand that also?

    I have tried for years to talk to my Wife and tell her how the Church has helped. She just sees it as me doing something on my own and she doesn’t agree. One time she said she wished I would have been up front with her regarding religion. It might have been her just being mad, but it hurt big time. Now that I quit going, we have a lot more peace in the house. There is no need to have holy wars in my own house, I believe that is a Satan’s tactic. It went on long enough!

    I think I could provide a different voice on this forum. From the looks of it, we have a mix of people here. I can come from a part member or outsider perspective on a lot of topics. I provided that kind of insight during our WC meetings as well. I have rather strong opinions on those who pressure people into missions, temple work, ect.. I believe that everyone should do what THEY want to do, not what people TELL them to do. I see a lot of posts here with those kinds of things going on. As I asked the Pastor at CofC, as long as you will have me, I will stay.

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