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ParticipantAgreed bluebird! It’s embarrassing that its 2013 and his is a first! HSAB
ParticipantI do not believe in polygamy and it has always bothered me. Even at the times I was the strongest in my testimony. My friend recently shared this link with me. It doesn’t make it all better, but the changes/additionals to our scriptures are definitely getting a little better IMO. One little bit at a time… HSAB
Participanthawkgrrrl wrote:You just have to make your own way and not care about what others think of you because the approval of other church members is not worth the cost to your authenticity.
Love this!HSAB
ParticipantI think the whole point of it isn’t that women not praying in conference is such a huge deal…it’s just one step at a time. At least that’s how I see it. I want people to ask why things are the way they are instead of just accepting things because that’s the way they’ve always been. HSAB
ParticipantWhen I found this in the WOW I was shocked-but there are other drinks from grains like barley water. HSAB
ParticipantHa ha 😆 HSAB
ParticipantI had to read this whole thread to understand what the big deal was. We obviously teach that. It’s gospel 101. It is the milk, not the meat. HSAB
ParticipantHooray!!!! I think it is very likely that the let women pray in conference thing made the big guys consider it. Either way, makes me happy! HSAB
ParticipantThanks for all the insight! I love hearing everyone’s opinions on this. For the record, my kids do not actually exist yet 😆 I just am thinking about all this way in advance so that I will (hopefully) feel more like I know what I want to teach them when they do come. Sometimes I think the things I like most about the church are the general Christian values, and it makes me wonder if it even matters what church I belong to.Then there’s also a long list of pro’s and con’s that I weigh because I want to believe that we have eternal families, but I don’t want to (and don’t at all) believe in polygamy. It almost seems like if it was true I would be able to accept and believe in all of it, not just parts of it. I think it does matter to me if it’s true. Maybe what I’m unsure about is how much it matters and what that means to my life.
HSAB
ParticipantJust because we don’t actively teach it in Sunday school or seminary does not mean that we don’t learn it. We read it in seminary, then we read it every time we read D&C. I cannot tell you how many times I have cried over this scripture. And also how many fights I have gotten in from college on with returned missionaries telling me that polygamy is a celestial law. My husband even said that on his mission he and his companion decided it must be a celestial law because of the scripture that we have. This scripture is so offensive and contradictory to everything that I am taught/feel about who I am.
I am a daughter of God, Who loves me, but not enough to let me have my own husband or make my own choices about who else he can marry?
I don’t know a single woman who has peace with this. The closest that they come to having peace seems to be ‘I believe that the church is true, so I don’t like it but maybe I’ll understand it in the eternities.’
HSAB
ParticipantThis question is so so sad. That is what worries me most about staying in the church-the day that my daughters see what I view as sexism. I think what you told her is the best possible answer you could give her. Because we don’t really have an answer. I would be hesitant though, to tell her we are equal but different in the church. One day she may realize that is just not true any definition of the world equality that she has been taught at school.
On Own Now wrote:It is part of priesthood responsibility. Sisters are “not under the same mandate.” Simply put, priesthood holders are supposed to serve, and their obligation is to serve 2 years, beginning as early as age 18. Sisters may serve if they so desire, and this optional service will be for 18 months starting as early age 19.
I feel like we say this for everything in the church; women don’t serve in leadership outside of auxiliaries because it is a priesthood responsibility; women are the presided over in the home because presiding is a priesthood responsibility. It seems like the priesthood is a really great excuse for women to not have any authority, leadership or (which is probably the worst of all) accountability.
Maybe I will start a new thread on that topic…
HSAB
ParticipantThat is an interesting and actually really logical theory. I like it. HSAB
ParticipantHa ha ha! That would be a mind blow! HSAB
ParticipantSamBee wrote:
Am I right in thinking Abraham is the earliest polygamist in the Bible?
I think the first one to practice it was Lamech, who was within the first few generations, but I think Abraham was the next one.
One of the things that I like about the church is that we believe in a Heavenly Mother. One of the things I don’t like about the church is that she doesn’t actually exist in any tangible way. I recently decided to start praying to Heavenly Mother. When I prayed to her for the first time I felt bad that I was leaving Heavenly Father out. (Silly, I know) But I had an overwhelming feeling that they were both there and both listening and that they always had. A few people mentioned this, but I have been thinking the past few months that God is actually both, and that our whole Heavenly Father terminology may be a mistake.
HSAB
ParticipantAlso, Rebeccad, I would LOVE to write for the feminist movement, but I don’t know how to go about doing that really. I’ve emailed FMH a few times with no reply. Any suggestions? -
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