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Thank you so much everyone for taking the time to discuss this topic. I still find it odd why it has to be odd symbolism. I guess I still need to process this. I feel the same way, a part of me wish I didn’t go through the temple because I wouldn’t feel like I’m not being true to myself for not wearing my garments. I think I also don’t believe in Garments. im still a good person. i dont like the idea how we are judged based on our garments. thats so wrong. I don’t drink, I don’t cheat, etc etc. I hate the idea that we are dismishes because we don’t wear garments. I also struggle with the temple ceremony. Especially how it was changed overtime and how it used to be so dramatic. Thank goodness it was removed, but still, it makes me question things, why would God want these penalties? It makes me feel like God is cruel. Why are the ordinances always changing?
It still feel weird not wearing the garments but I do feel a bit better about myself and am starting to want to dress myself up more. I’ve not been doing that because I feel ugly. I feel less ugly without the garments. I’m tired of feeling ugly all of the time. I’ just turned 29 and I won’t be young forever. I want to feel beautiful before I go old and wrinkled.
I’m conflicted because I want eternal marriage too. I shall cross that bridge if it comes, I suppose.
Hang in there, I like Ray’s advice.
I realize things I expressed may sound nonsense but I cannot make it more clear without revealing more personal information to make the big picture more clearer. 
I’m saved! The bishop wants us to use the new book instead of the usual D&C manual!
I forgot to update about my conversation with my mother about the garments. She opened up and shared her experiences she had that led her to stop practicing Mormon. She said for me to do whatever it take for me to feel happy and beautiful. She’s a sweetheart. It was a positive conversation. My grandma will find out sooner or later when I go home. My mom tells me my grandma has not always been an angel so she shouldn’t be judging me.
Indeed, I can imagine that it is a intimacy killer, having to set an appointment. Not cool.
You are not crazy! I’m having a faith crisis and I just moved to a new city. My shelf fell about 3 months after I moved here. At this point, my ” friends” in this unfamiliar place are the members of the church. They have really helped me out, gave me some good advices around here for a newcomer and made me feel like Im not as alone as I would have been without them. That is the good of the church. I still need to figure out what I believe though. I don’t think it is a bad thing to want to be a part of something good. You guys are awesome! I have been garment free for a week ish since my birthday. It has been weird, after wearing it for quite a while. I had to find which underwear doesn’t give you the wedge, it’s like underwear shopping all over again
:lolno: It will take time as I heal. I also noticed myself feeling like fixing myself more than usual to feel attractive. Interesting.Ironically, I went to church last Sunday for the first time since my faith crisis, stopped paying tithing and not wearing a garment. Guess what? I got a calling to teach Sunday School.. And the topic of the year is D&C
😯 :wtf: I’m so confused. The church teaches that JS translated the golden plates. Now I am finding references to claims that he used a ” seer stones” in his hat and looked into the hat to translate and the gold plate was not present. Who’s lying. Who’s telling the truth? Welcome! I think it is important for a person to explore everything about a religion to make a full informed decision about whether to join or not. I hope you are exploring this from all ends.
http://Www.lds.org has good resources there and they are officially from the church. This forum is mainly us confused lds members who are trying to figure things out. I’m an active member who is having a faith crisis right now, hence me joining this forum for support.Please do feel free to ask us anything. I only hope that you are getting information about lds religion from all fronts, not just this forum.
Unfortunately it seems to be the situation when we try to answer the questions then more questions comes up. It is a never ending cycle for us all. I thought I had the important answers until I discovered the dark history of the church 😯 .Thank you so much for your support! It means the world to me! I agree, mornings are very difficult for a bipolar person. My college is not following the accommodations I need so I’m stuck In the mornings courses this quarter and I’m not doing very well. I’m hoping to find some legal advocacy soon so this doesn’t happen again.
I think I have read the book, ” believe in Christ” but I cannot remember what it was about so it is good time to read it again! I will ask around and see if I can borrow it from someone. Thank you for sharing the reviews about ” following Christ” . You probably saved me from unnecessary guilt and pain from reading that book.
I will work on being ok with my limitations and not let people bother me about it. I’m also going through a FC so I’m not sure what I believe in either.
I’m probably am not the best person to reply to this trend because I’m in a faith crisis myself but maybe my insight will help somewhat. Note… This is not doctrine of the church, but my own logical guess.
my professor in scared txt and mythology class quoted ” mythology is eternal truth”
😯 At first, it took me off guard because everyone knows that mythology is.. Myth. His defense was that these stories survived the hard knocks of time, legends gets passed on through the generations. Many ” truths” doesn’t survive the brutality of time. Myth or not, there is a lot we can learn from our history and avoid the same mistakes and myths has a ” moral story” to every story. I’ll leave it at that because I’m still all mind boggled with this quote.As for me, I’m a scientist and logical. When I first investigated the church, I didn’t believe much of the bible or anything because it was too um not real. I came to conclusions that ” magic are actually technologies that are not yet understood.”. For instance if we were able to go back in time to thousands years before Christ and lightened a lightener. What would the people’s reactions be like? It would be pure magic to them. Maybe things mentioned in the bible and BOM seems like ” magic ” to them, but it really was some kind of advanced technology that somehow got into their hands ( suppose God was more involved in their lives back then). At the same time, why did he allow polygamy if he can use ” magic” to fix the offspring issues? At the same time, by the same logic, it doesn’t explain the reason why God is not involved our live as much like he used to, if that was the case.
I also figured that the years, days mentioned in the bible that conflicts the history of science has been ” dumbed” down to simple language everyone can process the information to understand the story of creation and the infinite amount of time would’ve went over our heads if it the ” same” story we’re to be told in exact literal sense. If God is really infinite and exists, then how can infinite knowledge and understanding fit into our finite minds?
:wtf: Maybe the bible had events that occurred and the people during that era could not explain it or they are purely symbolic.
Maybe the books had the whole history timeline way off and such since they are not pure from alternations in the Catholic Church when they were in control for centuries.
Questions will never stop, even if we try to come up with a logical explanation,it will always arises different questions.
A the same time both texts empathizes faith. Why faith? Sometimes I wonder if it is something religion use to keep the people blindly loyal or is there something the guy upstairs wants us to understand and learn something….? Where is the line between faith in ” myth” and using our heads, our brains to figure out what the truth is?
:crazy: I don’t want 10000 kids too. I don’t know if I can even handle one. When I was younger, I refused to consider the idea to have kids because of the oppression placed on women and it isn’t something I want. Now I’m in my 20s and I’m open to it, it will largely depend on the man I marry if that ever happens but two kids would be my maximum because it is such a HUGE responsibilities and i want to live life to its fullest, instead of staying home popping out babies. I have two fur kids and I’m content. I thought you meant first tour of the temple. My bad. I appreciate you clarifying. I got my endowment prior to my wedding day so it was my ” second ” time in the temple.
