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Church sleep! Yes. DH and I are both battling the flu and we’re having a hard time staying awake right now.
Didn’t they used to put the lyrics on the screen for the congregational hymn? I wish they still did that, it made it easier to sing along. We have GOT to stop perpetuating the idea that if you pay your tithing instead of feeding your children, everything will be okay. That is FALSE. “All in” also used to be slang for worn out or exhausted. Some of us are definitely all in in that sense. I’ve missed most of the talks today… DH and I are battling the plague and we’ve been taking turns napping. The first talk I heard in its entirety was Holland’s. That was a good talk.
Agreed. I know too much about biology to take the Adam and Eve story 100% literally – but I know a lot of people who do. My husband is one of them. And when I ask him about the incest factor, he will typically say something like “God’s ways are not our ways.” It seems odd to me that we can say “God’s ways are not our ways” when it comes to
rejectingsame sex relationships, but we are incapable of applying the same logic to acceptingthem. I sometimes think when we say “God’s ways are not our ways” what really mean is “I’m right, now shut up.” I read it. There’s a lot to get through but it’s not difficult at all. In a weird way I enjoyed it. I did think it was interesting that Cook pointed out that God’s plan apparently included incest between Adam and Eve’s descendants, I had just drawn that same (horrifying) conclusion myself.
:sick: Really just part of the larger point of “we don’t know what God wants, since He apparently changes His mind all the time.”Cook also didn’t mention asexuals. (I wouldn’t expect him to; it’s not really within the scope of the paper.) And I think that’s an interesting test case. The church has no problem with asexuals – they all either enter into mixed-orientation marriages or remain celibate, which is exactly what the church wants. And yet at the end of the day the church would say the exact same thing to an asexual person as it would to a homosexual one: “you have to be resurrected as a 100% heterosexual person or else you miss out on the highest degree of glory.”
Since I have a child whom I suspect may be the A in LGBTQIA+, that’s definitely something I think about. At the end of the day, it’s not just people who are 100% homosexual that present a problem, it’s people who are anything other than 100% heterosexual.
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It makes sense that his life would get more stories. I would caution against finding fault with stories about him.
Usually, I dislike TSM stories because they don’t seem to have a point.
This story? I am
absolutelygoing to find fault with, because it’s not just pointless, it’s dangerous. “Do whatever your church leaders ask, because it will turn out okay in the end?” Nope. That is how scrupulosity happens, and that is how disappointment happens. I am living proof of that. Just about everyone on StayLDS has a story about how doing exactly what we were told failed – sometimes with
disastrousconsequences. “Children, you should do whatever your church leaders say, even if it doesn’t feel right to you?” Nope. That is how abuse happens. And we aren’t immune to it, it’s not just a Catholic problem. This story was published in a magazine aimed at 3- to 12-year-olds. I honestly feel sick thinking about it.
ETA: I want to emphasize that I am not trying to bash TSM or speak evil of the Lord’s anointed or anything like that. I feel like this is a mistake on the part of the Church magazines editorial board. I honestly doubt TSM is too aware of what is even being published in the Friend at this point, I don’t hold him responsible. According to my husband, yes, we are expected to and we will be paying tithing on unemployment. (He didn’t say “we can’t afford not to” but I wouldn’t be surprised if he was thinking it.) So God has taken my husband’s job away, AGAIN. And we are receiving unemployment checks, a fraction of his previous income, and not some sort of gift. And God has the gall to stand there with His hand outstretched, demanding His cut. I can honestly not think of one nice word to say to or about God in this situation.
I’m pretty sure my father was counseled by his bishop to divorce my mother when she left the church. This would have been mid to late Nineties, so yeah, the policy has changed since then. But there’s always been a blind spot in the church’s No Divorce Ever talk. My son, who’s almost 12, has sensory issues related to autism, and we are specifically dealing with the problem of underwear right now. (It’s complicated by the fact that he’s almost 12, and he does NOT want to have a conversation about underwear!) And it occurred to me that he’s only got another six yearsbefore he has to give up control and have his underwear choices dictated by strangers for the rest of his life.That should be… interesting. I could actually see garments being a deal breaker for this kid. Assuming that something else isn’t.
I’ve been to LDS Family Services before and I was seriously unimpressed. I have been seeing a good, non LDS therapist but that’s like the second thing we cut when DH lost his job (after the Netflix subscription). Which, who knows, maybe that’s exactly what God had in mind. Thanks all for your support. I especially like what Reuben said about formulas, that makes a lot of sense.
