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Untamed by The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion by Jonathan Haidt
Why We’re Polarized by Ezra Klein
You are not so Smart by David McRaney
Leaving the Witness: Exiting a Religion and Finding a Life by Amber Scorah
Searching for Sunday: Loving, Leaving, and Finding the Church by Rachel Held Evans
I like a lot of Malcolm Gladwell books.
I found that I can borrow a bunch of these from libraries. I have a city library and a county library that I can borrow audio books and kindle books. There is often a wait time, but if you put your name in for several, you should start getting some after a while. Look for an app called “Overdrive”. Then search for local libraries.
I might also recommend listening to podcasts. There are a bunch out there. I like podcasts and audio books in that I can keep “doing” things while I listen (exercise, mow the lawn, work on items around the house, painting, pulling weeds, driving, cleaning the house and garage – my list goes on and on).
When I let my wife know that I no longer believed, one thing I told her is that I planned on always continuing to attend sac meeting with her as I know it can be hard to be there by ones self. Even though that was 2+ years ago, I still have not told my leaders where I am at belief wise. But dang it has been nice and I am worrying that it is going to be hard to go back when they start back up. I can probably skip a few weeks saying, “I just don’t feel comfortable that it is safe yet”, but that is going to wear thin quickly if the infection rates are low locally (or if a vaccine is found soon – if we can be so lucky). But even when I attend I don’t think I am going to want to take the sacrament for quite a long time.
We still have not paid tithing yet this year, but I think it is just because my wife is an essential worker and been to busy to figure it out. But I just can’t do that anymore – at least on my half of my earnings. So I will be telling her I fully support her continuing to pay, but I want to divert to giving to other charitable orgs. I know she isn’t going to be happy with that, but I just can’t. Especially after all the Ensign Peak stuff and also knowing how much goes to payoff sex abuse victims.
I have a son that I hope will be able to get home from Europe. I too was thinking “what can they do?” I talked with my son and he was upbeat “we are just moving to online”. I think that is going to even be less effective and we know in many areas it was more and more ineffective than in the past (before the last month). I think individuals are reluctant to close the door without even saying anything to the missionaries, but would have significantly less just not responding to a social outreach from someone they don’t know. In fact more people would be willing to even be aggressive/rude. That can be emotionally hard on missionaries while they are stuck up in an apartment all day long week after week.
I don’t think “the young messiah” is the same thing. I am adding a picture of the main character at the bottom. It was very interesting and I agree with hawkgrrrl’s take on it. I wonder where they are going after season 1.
[img]https://cdn.christianpost.com/files/cache/image/13/74/137454_w_760_405.png [/img] grobert93 wrote:It’s too bad this is likely just a PR stunt.
If this is a PR stunt, then the church needs to hire a REAL PR firm. This is more like shooting yourself in the foot. Fairly soon there will be no more feet to shoot at.
I think it will bring more bad PR than if they would have just left it alone. I did hear there was a small number of students that were adamant “this isn’t right!!!”. Those individuals are going to be even more emboldened.
I heard someone share that this sounded a bit like, “Don’t bring that virus to SLC!! Stay away please.” I don’t think I agree that this was the motivation and the cancellation wasn’t an over or under reaction. I can believe that if someone had come and spread it at conference, that isn’t the “Mormon Moment” the church is looking for and they don’t want that kind of news coverage. nibbler wrote:I’ve heard people say things like the computer was invented specifically to further the work of the church.
One word:Porn
Roy wrote:
I am in favor of increasing the inactivity timeout to 120 minutes.
WAIT!! I thought the whole purpose of this site was to “STAY LDS”, not encourage
inactivity!!!! 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 DarkJedi wrote:
… stuff deleted …I do and don’t see the reason for her inactivity, and she doesn’t really talk about that in the book outright. I do wonder how she really feels about the church.
I get the impression she is trying to stay away from really getting into that as it is not the point of her book, nor does she want to alienate those (maybe even some young woman in Idaho in similar-ish circumstances). I think this is wise from an author attempting to make a buck and wise for someone that is trying to make some change in the world.
But it would be nice to talk to her more 1×1 where she would be comfortable that her confidences would not be betrayed and she could be honest. But I also in another way don’t care, but I do care that she find her own path of happiness.
I REALLY enjoyed the book. I don’t think it directly is any attack on the church (and Tara makes a point about saying that over and over in interviews), but it does show how a mentally off person can really thrive within the LDS culture. I really am amazed at where Tara has been able to do with her life.
QuestionAbound wrote:
Wondering how it will compare to what we currently have.
I would have to assume some of the stuff that REALLY sounds bad to outsiders will be removed. I read (studied) the 2010 version when it came out since I was new to being in the bishopric. There were some things that I don’t think they would want shown to just anybody (odd stuff like, “A couple should consult with their bishop before deciding to have a vasectomy” I don’t think most bishops want to talk about that! The vast majority of the older HB1 was
:yawn: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn: , but I even remember as a believer thinking, “Wow😯 – that is interesting that the say that or say it in that way.”Strike another mark for “outside pressure pushing changes the church.” I think a common criticism was that the entire “church courts” procedures were not something that the person being called would even know. And I see this change is for the good.
One thing the church does well (for most people) is the social aspect. Very few other groups have it where when you move in you can ask for people to just come over and move you in, and that is just the start. You get near instant friends. But for some, it does not work so well. One of my big takeaways from my path has been “when you are in the Mormon bubble and it is working, it feels and works really good – but when it doesn’t it sometimes really doesn’t work”. I am not “out” to my ward, but I know the day is coming where I will. I am already saddened by the fact that I will lose so many friends. And being so busy in the church, most of my “local” friends are LDS. I have a few work friends, but some are an hour drive away.
And I have also read a bunch about humans and the brain, and we are social creatures. A lone monkey is a dead monkey. We DEEPLY crave meaningful relationships. I think it was Robin Williams that said, “the most alone feeling is when you are surrounded by people you don’t connect with”.
I second the suggestion of taking an active role and investing time into relationships. You can’t force it, but you can do things that put you in a place where you are move likely to have spontaneous friendships start. Do what you can to increase your odds.
