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I agree with Ray. It seems to me that conference talks have mentioned the possibility that if a worthy woman (or man) dies without being sealed to a spouse, then they will find a righteous person in the next life. Since the same sociality exists in the next life, I don’t think a person would be paired with any random spouse, but rather the single person would date, court, and choose their spouse, just as we do here. I’m sorry to hear that swimordie. My situation is a little different, but similar. My dad has a real bad temper, and my wife has a real hard time with it. I have a hard time with his temper as well, but I’ve grown up with it my entire life. I want to maintain a relationship (sometimes my dad can be real cool), but I also have to respect my wife’s feelings. My wife doesn’t enjoy hosting my parents when they come for a visit, but she puts up with it. I’ve really had to distance myself from my parents, but I don’t want to completely shut them out either. The result has been spending a radically greater amount of time with her family, than mine.
As a person in you wife’s situation, it is a tough tightrope. I don’t really have any words of advice, but I ask you to be understanding when she tries to play peacemaker with her family. She and I are in a tough situation, and I’m not sure how to navigate these troubling waters either.
Quote:We don’t do polygamy marriages in the temple for those who have passed away, but we do baptisms and sealings.
In fact, we do, for both men and women. Let’s say you’re doing your genealogy, and find a man with multiple wives (divorced, passed away, etc.) He is sealed to all of them, with the idea that God will decide who they should be sealed to permanently. The converse is also true. If we find a woman with multiple husbands (divorced, passed away, etc.), she is sealed to all the husbands, because God will decide who they should be sealed to permanently.
I learned this from a temple worker.
If I may be a fly in the ointment of legalization, I found this article at http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/evidence99/marijuana/Health_1.html Quote:Smoking marijuana regularly (a joint a day) can damage the cells in the bronchial passages which protect the body against inhaled microorganisms and decrease the ability of the immune cells in the lungs to fight off fungi, bacteria, and tumor cells. For patients with already weakened immune systems, this means an increase in the possibility of dangerous pulmonary infections, including pneumonia, which often proves fatal in AIDS patients.
Studies further suggest that marijuana is a general “immunosuppressant” whose degenerative influence extends beyond the respiratory system. Regular smoking has been shown to materially affect the overall ability of the smoker’s body to defend itself against infection by weakening various natural immune mechanisms, including macrophages (a.k.a. “killer cells”) and the all-important T-cells. Obviously, this suggests the conclusion, which is well-supported by scientific studies, that the use of marijuana as a medical therapy can and does have a very serious negative effect on patients with pre-existing immune deficits resulting from AIDS, organ transplantation, or cancer chemotherapy, the very conditions for which marijuana has most often been touted and suggested as a treatment. It has also been shown that marijuana use can accelerate the progression of HIV to full-blown AIDS and increase the occurrence of infections and Kaposi’s sarcoma. In addition, patients with weak immune systems will be even less able to defend themselves against the various respiratory cancers and conditions to which consistent marijuana use has been linked, and which are discussed briefly under “Respiratory Illnesses.”
In conclusion, it seems that the potential dangers presented by the medical use of marijuana may actually contribute to the dangers of the diseases which it would be used to combat. Therefore, I suggest that marijuana should not be permitted as a therapy, at least until a good deal more conclusive research has been completed concerning its debilitating effect on the immune system.
For more on this topic, please see Donald P. Tashkin, M.D., “Effects of Marijuana on the Lung and Its Immune Defenses,” Secretary’s Youth Substance Abuse Prevention Intiative: Resource Papers, March 1997, Center for Substance Abuse Prevention. Pages 33-51 of this address can be found at the website of the Indiana Prevention Resource Center at Indiana University, located at
http://www.drugs.indiana.edu/druginfo/tashkin- marijuana.html.I think tobacco should be made illegal as well, and I think we are on the road to that. I agree with those who don’t think pot smokers should be in the criminal justice system–I don’t believe that is productive, but I also don’t think marijuana is nearly as harmless as people on this forum have been touting. The comparisons to alcohol are wrong–it is more similar to tobacco, IMO.
Heber, I liked your explanation about Adam and Eve in your last post about them. Is there more to your theory than that? (I’ve been keeping up with the latest comments, but apologize if you said something before that I missed.) I tend to agree that monogamy is the ideal, not polygamy. I can’t listen to Limbaugh or Olbermann either. They both drive me nuts! (I do like Olbermann when he talks about sports, however–it’s too bad he and Dan Patrick split up. I’ve always though Limbaugh was a windbag, though he can be funny sometimes. Lately, he’s just a jerk.) Heber, I like your interpretation–it seems more modern and palatable. However, I must agree with Bruce in Montana here. As a fundamentalist, I believe he is giving the proper perspective here. Mary Lightner was one of Joseph’s polygamist wives. She gave an interview at BYU which can be found here
http://www.ldshistory.net/pc/merlbyu.htm Here are some impressions of mine.
(1) Quoting from the link,
“An angel came to him and the last time he came with a drawn sword in his hand and told Joseph if he did not go into that principle, he would slay him.”I have always found this difficult to believe (and even self-serving to Joseph.) It does not seem to square with Biblical practices of polygamy, IMO. Now I know that “we believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly”, yet to my knowledge, Joseph made no changes to the Bible regarding polygamist practices, nor did he say that Sarah giving Hagar as another wife to Abraham to be inaccurate. Joseph corrected 2 verses in chapter 21 of Genesis, but they have nothing to do with polygamy. He changed verses 31 and 32, and seem completely insignificant regarding Hagar. (2) Hagar was an Egyptian. As we know from Abr 1:26-7
“26 Pharaoh, being a righteous man, established his kingdom and judged his people wisely … but
cursed him as pertaining to the Priesthood.27 Now,
Pharaoh being of that lineage by which he could not have the right of Priesthood,notwithstanding the Pharaohs would fain claim it from Noah, through Ham, therefore my father was led away by their idolatry Why is Abraham mixing his seed with a cursed woman? Better yet, why is Ishmael also promised to be a great nation in Gen 21:18, even though he comes from the cursed Egyptian line?
(3) If Lightner received this angelic visit, why didn’t Emma? (or Hagar, or Leah, or all the other polygamist wives.) Certainly Joseph said the same thing to Emma. If Emma had received a visitation, surely she would have felt the same way as Lightner. If this was such an important principle, why didn’t Emma receive a visit like Paul on the road to Damascus, or Alma the Younger?
(4) Mary made a very interesting reference to Joseph having children with other wives.
“I think two are living today but they are not known as his children as they go by other names.”I found this very interesting. Glen Leonard (who wrote a book about Nauvoo) made a similar reference. I have no idea who she is referring to, but DNA evidence has failed to produce evidence of Joseph’s offspring except through Emma’s line. I think a better comparison to marijuana is tobacco. One of the things that has not been mentioned here is that pot causes lung cancer, and is much worse than cigarettes. From that point of view, it is a big health hazard. I can see that the future may make tobacco illegal as well. As we know, rights of smokers are being limited more and more, and I really see tobacco earning the same status as pot. Interestingly, doctors used to prescribe cigarettes as a stress reducer. It does work, but does anyone really think that is sound medical advice?
I think this story ought to be submitted to http://overheardintheward.com/ It’s full of stories like this!
😆 Heber’s daughter said, Quote:“I HATE going to church and I feel bad every time I go. I’d rather stay home and read general conference talks or have FHE with you. I just hate church and people there are so fake and judgemental.”
I feel the same way often about church, and I do read books/conference talks, etc during the meetings. Currently, I get way more out of my personal study than the Sunday School classes. That isn’t always the case–in some wards I have really enjoyed the teachers and their preparation, but currently, I just sit in the hall and read what I want. As long as your daughter understands the purpose of sacrament meeting, and the need for the sacrament, I think it would be fine for her to sit in the hall and read a conference talk during some of the other meetings. She’s doing something constructive, and will probably give her more benefit than being forced into a Sunday School class with people she doesn’t like.
If Solomon had 700 wives, and 300 concubines, there must be some other distinction for concubines. There were 699 wives after the first, and 300 concubines. 
Malachi chapter 3 talks about tithing, so you might want to read the whole chapter. As for spiritual benefits of tithing, in verse 10 the Lord says, “prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that [there shall] not [be room] enough [to receive it].”Of course, the next verse seems to talk more about “physical” blessings, but verse 10 can be interpreted as a spiritual blessing, and ” [there shall] not [be room] enough [to receive it].”
D&C 64: 23, Behold, now it is called today until the coming of the Son of Man, and verily it is a day of sacrifice, and a day for the tithing of my people; for
he that is tithed shall not be burned at his coming.Some LDS people call tithing “fire insurance.” Not being burned at Jesus 2nd Coming can be considered a spiritual blessing, I think.
As for the WoW, you’re probably aware of the physical blessings of “run and not be weary” etc, but there are a few spiritual blessings too. Section 89, Verse 19 says,
“And shall find wisdom and great treasures of knowledge, even hidden treasures;”I think these treasures of knowledge, even hidden treasures should be considered spiritual insights and blessings.
