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With recommends being computerized now they do not have to have a list of members holding recommends that cannot enter at every temple. They can just “turn it off” and your recommend is no longer valid at any temple. This isn’t just for the purpose of situations like the one stated in this thread but handy if your recommend should be lost or stolen. Off topic: I’ve been assured that they do not use this system to track how often people actually attend the temple. I know that the Bishop does not receive any sort of report. But if there is a way to gather statistics this easily you know information is being stored somewhere.
I posted this link to my FB page. I got an very interesting response that I asked to share. Quote:I agree, very interesting. Living in “the field” my eyes have been opened to so much more than little old [Mor Cor town] provided. I live in very large ward that continues to grow at a crazy rate. Love that. I know active people (I have no clue, nor does it matter to me if they are actual members, just happy to see them there) who have had sex changes, gay couples(return missionaries) and couples that live together unmarried.
I love it, because where I come from those people would not choose to be attending and if they were, it would be because they were reactivating and would be going through the repentance process. They are GOOD people. I just love that they have a relationship ship with God and have a desire to learn of him and worship him. They have their own personal testimony of Him as do I. I have no rights to question, judge or worry about their testimonies or faith as I am entitled to the same respect and acceptance. How they chose to live is between them and the Lord, it has nothing to do with me.
My hope is they feel love and acceptance and continue to attend meetings. Through doing so they will be feed and their testimonies will be strengthened. I have also witnessed many very active members leave the church for the reasons that have the highest % rate on this survey.
There are some gems out there.
I’d love to share back with her your reactions to her comments.
Also, another fellow commented that he found it very interesting that people who no longer believed still attended the temple because he is a believer and doesn’t make it very often!
I’m not sure too many people looked at the link. I did not get any negative responses.
Testimony is such a difficult thing. Saying “I know” , man, can I relate to that. I’ve learned to bear testimony of something I do know and that is I truly believe that keeping “the commandments” leads to a happier life. That’s what my testimony has consisted of lately. Thanks for sharing this. Really enjoyed hearing where you are at.
I’m so glad you introduced yourself and told us your story. Welcome! I have no advice but want to recognize your struggle and I’m so glad that you want to find a place that isn’t full a acrimony. That is why I love staylds.
My bishop walked out of the Worldwide Leadership training and said, Doesn’t some of that sound a bit hoakish? This same man who declared the church was true the week before in SM. So maybe don’t count your bishop out, tread lightly, test the waters but he may be more sympathetic than you think. And so may be your wife. Welcome!
Well, in my claim to fame of dating whack-o men I actually dated Chris Nem elka a few times. It wasn’t very long before I figured out that he was nutso, wow. I didn’t want any part of his changing the world. (A google search will reveal much.) I did find me a very, very normal guy. Not much of a peter priesthood but he is the bishop and I can guarantee that no angels are talking to him.
😆 I must admit that my first reaction the next morning was HOLY SH!T, Rick Santorum? Are you freaking kidding me. How come Romney just can’t feel love?
I’ll stay on my blue side, TYVM.
Hilarious. My son just called to ask if I’d seen it and if I could save it and send it to his brother who is currently on a mission. I said I’d see what I could do.
As someone who has been bothered by the same things as you can I give one little bit of advice: You are really worrying too much about something you have not yet experienced. Do your endowment, get married and then revisit your thoughts and feelings. You may be worrying about things you don’t need to worry about. I’m thinking that since you are armed with so much knowledge and perhaps had you not had all of this foreknowledge it may not have bothered you as much. You will in no way be blindsided that is no doubt!
Of course, the women veiling their faces is going to be obvious and I feel it is very 1800sish and will eventually be taken out. The hearken part is also lame (for lack of a better term) and one that my husband and I have never spoken about, he wouldn’t even dare say the word “hearken” to me. It’s just a non-starter. I’ll follow God just as he does. Finding that it is a product of the 1950s just confirms what I’ve always felt.
Go looking for the equaling parts of the ceremony. We all are given the same signs and tokens. We are are given the same blessings at the veil. The women actively use and participate in priesthood ordinances THESE ARE REALLY COOL THINGS that we as women get to experience in the Temple. The temple is much more equal than any other church ceremony, meeting, ordinance, etc. To me the temple is much more of an equalizer than anything else we do in church.
Good luck on your feminist journey. Times will change, it will just come much more slowly than you’d like. The older generations with the power and influence die off slowly!
😆 :silent: But we love’em anyway.
