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Observant — why is it not surprising that even long-time, dedicated members in the Church at large aren’t aware of the apology, and therefore think it’s news?
Well, I don’t know exactly how this type of thing is announced. I remember “kinda” hearing something about it when the actual apology happened but I didn’t spend a lot of time thinking about it. I really don’t think it would have been appropriate to announce over the pulpit that the apology happened. It was published in the Church News and so I’m guessing that is how the church disseminates this type of information to the members.
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/51052/Expressing-regret-for-1857-massacre.html ” class=”bbcode_url”> http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/51052/Expressing-regret-for-1857-massacre.html I’m so glad you did n’t let the links stand. When I had the chance to look at his page (it was filtered here at work) I was quite unimpressed and really quite sickened by the blog content. Good call guys. I have no problem with the church apologizing and it’s wonderful to see. I’m not sure if I remember this from 2007 but I’m glad you refreshed my memory. People ARE fallible aren’t they? Even Mormons!
I did pass that along to a family member. I don’t really feel I should fill it out because I’m not really a non-believer like I think they want. I’m just cynical! To answer SD: Quote:Sometimes you might be tempted to think as I did from time to time in my youth: “The way things are going, the world’s going to be over with. The end of the world is going to come before I get to where I should be.” Not so! You can look forward to doing it right—getting married, having a family, seeing your children and grandchildren, maybe even great-grandchildren.– Elder Packer
I like this because I really have a problem with dooms-dayers and the LDS culture (at least where I live) is really bad for that.
http://bycommonconsent.com/2011/10/04/boyd-k-packer-and-prophetic-despair/ This made me feel better BKP talk. I was also impressed when he said that the youth today should not think that they will see the 2nd coming soon but should plan raising their children, seeing their children and even their great-grand children. WOOT! I won’t have to march back to Missouri after all!
Yeah, he still digs at the gays but this overview by Kristine puts a much better spin on his talk.
When they added a new ward to our stake my husband was called to be the bishop (of the current ward, not the new one). When SP called him the comment was made that our ward had been “gutted.” Yep. There are a lot of people, not just a lot of actives ones. It’s difficult. Plus our ward covers “in town” and “out of town” and for some reason with the ward splits this has been a big factor where before it didn’t matter. I’m not sure what that has to do with this discussion but I thought it was an interesting comment. I have no idea why the SP thought we needed a new ward in our stake, it’s made our ward much less effective and enjoyable. I’m sure in time we’ll recover.
Wow, that is a big step. My bishop husband talks about doing that himself. I hope you find a ward that you enjoy. It might be a good idea to find a ward first then look for a home in those boundaries. Sounds like you are perhaps already doing that. :raises hand: I’m a Bishop’s wife!
😆 You’ve gotten really good advice so far.
Yep, girls are still getting the shaft but I think it gets better with time. YW leaders aren’t just sitting back and taking it anymore. It may take another generation or so but I think it will really get more and more equal. I don’t think this is an LDS church phenomenon this is a matter of culture. As our culture changes these things in the church will be forced to keep up.
I like to think of the gospel as true rather than a true church. I really don’t feel I’d be any happier or more content attending another church as I’ve found this one to be pretty darn good despite its flaws. And I would really not be worth a *shit* if I didn’t have some weekly reminder and help keeping me on some sort of straight path. I NEED church, my husband needs it as much as I do or even more. It’s probably helped us stayed married.
My small crisis passed and even though I still don’t know what I truly believe I’m getting content knowing I will never find anything perfect and that’s okay. I’m still working on understanding the atonement and my testimony of such, I figure I”m just a work in progress. When I read about the church controversies of past and present, I think about it some and then set it aside and worry about my right here and now.
As for your husband sitting on the stand… hmm, I don’t have a problem with that as it actually cracks me up because it’s so unreal that he’s the bishop. (He is just so not the person you’d ever think would be a bishop.) So I like to do stuff like roll my eyes at him when I don’t agree with the speaker and I will also try to make him blush with a certain “look” or something. I don’t take it seriously at all. But then that’s my husband. He’s accepted me and my apostate ways. I printed out the “Stay LDS” help manual when I found it and although he’s never read it he knows it’s there if he needs it for someone. I’ve used many of the suggestions myself. I know I would never do anything that would jeopardize his position as bishop even though we both would like it if he was just a Sunday School teacher! I would not want to bring any shame on him or the family. Being a predominantly LDS community makes this really imperative.
This is what I’ve tried to do. I’m not concerned about whether the church is true. I’m trying to use it as vehicle to help me help others which is what Jesus would want me to do.
I also think you can
slowlyintroduce your kids to your new thoughts. Who knows, they may have had the same/thoughts and feelings that you are having now but they were afraid to voice them. I know I’m doing that now with my teens, we question things together and that doesn’t make it so scary. My oldest is on a mission and I’m nervous that when he gets home he’ll be way too “religious” to fit in but I’m sure with time we’ll wear him down and back into the sinful ways of our family. Good luck! We’d love to hear how things go as you work through this.
Weird. Earlier today there was a 2nd Counselor listed in that bishopric. I noticed that because his date was a different date than bishop or 1st counselor. Now that name is gone. Obviously the ward is going through the some changes. It lists the ward clerk but not the Exec. Sec. I think I should just PM someone the bishop’s phone number and they can call him and ask him what’s up. Or maybe an email address? 
If I go to my ward’s information it lists the ward clerk and the exec. sec. I’m thinking since it lists all of them they could be considered the “bishopric” it certainly is semantics.
