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speaking as someone who has been on a “singles cruise” recently, I see both sides of this. Yes, there were more women than men. However, it was very obvious to me that the girls ran in “cliches” and as has been pointed out, how many of us really have the desire or guts to get in the middle of a group of girls and single one out? I have also tried the on-line dating. I have found that most women don’t respond to me unless they already know me. Full disclosure: I admit to being picky, but with me it is more about the perceived intelligence than the looks. Finally, I would like to understand the rationale behind the statement “Her best bet is to move to California and marry outside the faith.” Was this just an opinion or is it based on something factual? I ask because maybe I should move to California as well.
I had small blips, put questions on a “shelf” because I honestly didn’t care through out life, but none hit me strong until late 30s… Mostly what caused it was talking to a couple of people in a relatively short period of time who I thought “knew” what they believed and they came to me because they thought I “knew”, kind of ironic now that I think about it.
Thank you for all you have done and know that you are always welcome and will be missed, so please visit! Really enjoyed your intro, and I relate a lot. I have been there. I am going to recommend something that I usually don’t recommend (and this all depends on your relationship with your bishop) talk to him about your feelings thoughts. If there is anyone in your ward that feels burnout, it is probably him. At the least, this will let him know where you are at so he isn’t asking you to do the demanding callings while you get your breath. Anyway, welcome, and good luck
First as I am sure you will be told by others, find out what you do believe. Start there and build upon it. I have found the most important thing for me is finding someone that I like and trust in your local ward, if you can, and build that relationship. (This may be hard as it will require you to be less of a hermit. I am a hermit as well.)
anyway, welcome and good luck!
QuestionAbound wrote:Oneofmany wrote:(FYI – my first thought afterwards was poor RS president, more meeting for her to attend.)
I’m not sure how I feel about your comment there.
Sorry it has been a while since I have been on.
The only meaning I meant by my comment was that I felt sorry for her attending more meetings as I find them to be generally pointless..
Ann wrote:(And I just realized I’ve been singing this wrong – “the grass grows greener still” – my whole life. I guess I liked it better that way.)
Just to post on “give said the little stream”, the words were changed in relatively recent history because of the connotations of “grass”. My mom was lamenting the fact that she too liked it better when the grass was greener still. (She ought to know as she has spent over 26 years in one primary calling or another, which by the way she says are the best callings in the church. I love my Mom!)
I used to have a fascination with concept of infinite and eternity and realized, I just can’t comprehend them. (Granted my fascination was more in a mathematical real.) This subject has been known to cause people to lose their minds and not just speaking in a religious sense. (For a good mathematical interesting read on the subject that can be understood, I recommend reading the book “mystery of the Alph” (It is supposed to be the infinity symbol but I couldn’t find it in any of the options.)) Basically, what it comes down to for me in both mathematics and here, I don’t comprehend it. I can use it for some important conclusions but I don’t completely understand. Thank you all for your thoughts on this subject. I honestly wasn’t expecting much from my post as I stated it as a rant on my part but I really do appreciate the time (service) that you have given in your responses. You have given me some things to think about. I agree I preferred having the custodians. That said, by saying that I haven’t helped the situation at all and neither did my rant but it made me feel better. Are you, DJ and Cadence, proposing that we just stop cleaning? I do have a follow up question, I wasn’t around much before they did away such things but didn’t there used to be some sort of building donation or something like that was requested over and above tithing that helped pay for custodians?
Okay, I am a little confused as I never call anyone without a reason even if the reason is just to hang out, and in my opinion this is asking something from them, their time. I call people for many reasons, to ask for something, to commiserate something, to find out what they have been up to but always with a purpose in mind when I call, I always thought I was valuing their and my time too much to just chit chat… I guess my problem is that I came away from reading this and thought, wow I have no friends. (probably true as I really am a bad friend as evidenced by the fact that I do not have “friends” that live long distances from me) Sorry, I misunderstood.
DarkJedi wrote:What I was asking here was, if you were EQP in my ward, what would you do about Sunday meetings? As EQP you would attend PEC and ward council, both of which are held Sunday mornings.
It is interesting you should ask. I am about to find out as I recently (as in Sunday) was asked to be the next EQP. My bishop is a self proclaimed believer in the 14th article of faith, “We believe in meetings.”
😈 I hoped I would never have to make this decision (I am a blue shirt no tie wearer and I have no intention of changing.) I even tried to talk the stake president into rescinding the calling as he was making it. Telling him about some of my issues, which I do not really want to get into here as I may have just voided anonymity. (This may actually be one case where it might have been better if I hadn’t found this forum.) If they can keep the meetings to a respectable length, 1 hour or so, then, I’ll probably go as I do understand that there does need to be a level of coordination/discussion to run a ward. However, I, also, plan on taking a number of weekend vacations.
DarkJedi wrote:I obviously agree with you on this part. What if you were YMP or EQP? All the meetings you are supposed to be at are on Sunday mornings here.
As I said, there are exceptions to every rule. Depending on which family member. each responds differently in that regard. Personally, I am currently in an EQ presidency, we spend less than 30 minutes in meetings per week. (usually less, as in no meeting) Also, they are more amenable to meetings in the morning than afternoon and evenings.
Sorry for posting twice, but I forgot to respond to the Sunday meetings in general. My family and extended family doesn’t do them as a general rule ever since the first presidency said that Sundays were for the family and we aren’t afraid to tell people that. I have not been to a CES fireside in over ten years. (Note: there are exceptions to this general rule.) I have been in a number of wards that do linger longer and yes those wards were young single wards… IMO they have never been branded as compulsory and really were just a time for ward members to get together and socialize in a none structured way. Personally, I do not like to stay to them and don’t because I do not socialize. That said, usually they take less than 10 minutes to set up for (non-cooking portion) and if everyone helps to clean up take even less time to take down. Compared to cooking your own meal on a per person basis the actual work involved is usually less. I have no issue with them. Like most programs they work for some and don’t for others. I do think in general they help bond a ward together as the wards I was in that had better chew and chows seemed less likely to have well defined clicks.
