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DarkJedi wrote:
Might I suggest you give us something to go with in an introduction.
I found this site trying to figure out what a NOM was…not even sure what I was reading that referenced NOM but I ended up here. I don’t have much experience with the internet as it relates to members of the Church.
We recently moved to the PNW, found a good ward but a crappy Bishop, ended up at another ward and have since stopped attending for the last 6 months as we didn’t feel it was safe for my daughter.
My biggest issue is that life isn’t completely black or white. Gray doesn’t work for the Church and I am not perfect. Trying to deal with that is a challenge. I have issues when doctrine or rules (real or imagined) become more important than people. I also struggle with the way the Church misrepresents the truth. I have less of an issue with things like the CES letter and bigger issues with dishonesty about the life Joseph Smith lead or the experiences he had. Luckily for me, my issues don’t bother my wife. Her focus is on Jesus Christ and everything else is secondary. She is aware of my frustration and we have family with similar concerns.
Not too much else to say; I was just curious how people reconcile their actions with their beliefs now that they don’t see the world as exclusively white and how they would approach raising a child given their new beliefs.
Roy wrote:I participate with my family in various churches. My kids are still young (9 and 7) so I will let you know how it goes.
:thumbup: I’ve been thinking about doing this too.
Old-Timer wrote:I love Jacob 5, since it says the pruning will happen right up until the end.
I also love the second parable in Matthew 13 about the wheat and the tares, since it says the good fruit and the bad fruit will be left to grow together until the end – for the good of the good fruit, ironically. Thus, incorrect stuff existing in the body of Christ / vineyard / church is a fulfillment of prophecy and evidence of God’s love for us.
That can be a paradigm changer if we let it be.
The tough part would be finding out that I’m a tare when I felt like wheat.
🙂 SilentDawning wrote:I believe too that I will be there for her when/if she has her own faith crisis.
What if she never needed to have one? And how would you justify her upbringing once she knew you weren’t really a TBM? (I mean no offense by this)
When we have to adjust meanings of words like prophet, true, scripture etc. to be able to cope it makes me struggle with how exactly do I teach this to my daughter and feel that I am being honest and authentic. It seems like on some level you have to believe the church is currently in some state of apostasy with itself to justify the cafeteria/alternate definition approach.
Ann wrote:Sometimes I wish President Hinckley was here. I don’t think he wanted this for us.
I agree with this…the way things are now make me wonder who is really running the church.
SunbeltRed wrote:Reporting Back:
The only low point was in combined third hour he voluntold two men to stand and state why the church is opposed to same sex marriage, and made it a point that we must be ready to defend this position. (I don’t agree with that view, but am willing to give people a pass on this. Even though it didn’t feel right to me I still tried to make that viewpoint work for a long time, but realized I couldn’t). I wish I would have raised my hand and made the point that people can disagree and still have a temple recommend, but I didn’t.
The last 3 minutes are especially good if you are short on time:
Heber13 wrote:I believe the Book of Mormon to be scripture like the bible.
I believe Joseph Smith to be a prophet like Moses.
I believe the D&C to be canonized scripture.
I believe the church is true. It does a lot of good and teaches good values.
I have spiritual experiences when participating in the church.
I have changed my expectations on what scriptures, prophets, churches an religions always have been, but I never saw it in the same light I see it now.
Nothing outside has changed.
But inside, I have changed.
So how exactly do you define “scripture”, “prophet” and “true”?
