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  • in reply to: What is Sin? #124271
    quietblue
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    I’ve always thought of sin as deliberate disloyalty to God. Also known as self-will, or self-exaltation.

    in reply to: Church discipline #122963
    quietblue
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    Situations like this are good examples of the exercise of unrighteous dominion.

    The Savior counseled as such:

    Matt. 7: 1

    1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

    And proclaimed as such:

    John 12: 47

    47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.

    So if we are to be righteous Judges of our fellowman, we should quit judging them, be merciful when they have borne fruits of repentance and forgive them.

    Luke 6: 37

    37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

    in reply to: "Truth is One, but the sages speak of it by many names." #122686
    quietblue
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    Rix wrote:

    Does anybody believe in “reincarnation” in the Hindu sense? Or any other sense?

    I’ve always figured that the doctrine of resurrection was a more beautiful way to explain the concept of reincarnation that has arisen in other cultures. Having parts of my path that have passed through Buddhist and Hindu studies, I feel those studies strengthen my testimony of resurrection.

    in reply to: What the heck is a "mystic"? #122325
    quietblue
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    The practical test of all these strange religious experiences of mysticism, ecstasy, and inspiration is to observe whether these phenomena cause an individual:

    1. To enjoy better and more complete physical health.

    2. To function more efficiently and practically in his mental life.

    3. More fully and joyfully to socialize his religious experience.

    4. More completely to spiritualize his day-by-day living while faithfully discharging the commonplace duties of routine mortal existence.

    5. To enhance his love for, and appreciation of, truth, beauty, and goodness.

    6. To conserve currently recognized social, moral, ethical, and spiritual values.

    7. To increase his spiritual insight–God-consciousness.

    True religion is not a system of philosophic belief which can be reasoned out and substantiated by natural proofs, neither is it a fantastic and mystic experience of indescribable feelings of ecstasy which can be enjoyed only by the romantic devotees of mysticism. Religion is not the product of reason, but viewed from within, it is altogether reasonable. Religion is not derived from the logic of human philosophy, but as a mortal experience it is altogether logical. Religion is the experiencing of divinity in the consciousness of a moral being of evolutionary origin; it represents true experience with eternal realities in time, the realization of spiritual satisfactions while yet in the flesh.

    in reply to: What the heck is a "mystic"? #122322
    quietblue
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    Occult means “hidden”, as in hidden knowledge.

    in reply to: Tithing #117816
    quietblue
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    I wouldn’t consider debt an auto writeoff from tithes,

    debt is a bondage you willingly placed yourself under.

    in reply to: What the heck is a "mystic"? #122309
    quietblue
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    This is a deep topic.

    Wikipedia puts it this way:

    See also, “Mystic”. The term ‘”mysticism'” is used to refer to beliefs and practices which go beyond the liturgical and devotional forms of worship of mainstream faith, often by seeking out inner or esoteric meanings of conventional religious doctrine, and by engaging in spiritual practices such a breathing practices, prayer, contemplation and meditation, along with chanting and other activities designed to heighten spiritual awareness.

    From what I understand, hermeticism, esoterica, occult, wicca, and mystery would be good topics to check out if you are interested in “Mormon mystics.”

    in reply to: Dishonoring Christ? #122240
    quietblue
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    swimordie wrote:

    Christ fulfilled 2,000 years of “commandments” by giving the “Two Great Commandments”: Love God and love your neighbor.

    In the subsequent 2,000 years, not only have we reinstated much of the Christ-fulfilled laws of the OT, but we’ve added 12 volumes of “commandments” since.

    My understanding from reading both Matt. 5: 17, 3 Ne. 12: 17-18 and Matt. 22:36-40, is that in the Two Great Commandments the Mosaic Law is fulfilled. This means that “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.” and “Thou shalt alove thy neighbour as thyself.” is a perfect revelation of God’s True Law, which was less clearly understood through Mosaic Law. This would show that the Mosaic Law was “fulfilled” and justified.

    This goes with saying that the application of the Two Great Commandments would result in the keeping of the Ten Commandments as well.

    As far as I understand, most modern-day commandments are for those who do not understand on their own how to truly love God and their neighbors, so the Lord teaches them in a way they will understand. I guess it goes to show how many people really don’t live up to the measure of revelation, which is most likely why we haven’t seen much of it as a Church in a while.

    Line upon line.

    in reply to: Growing #121501
    quietblue
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    Valoel wrote:

    quietblue wrote:

    To add a little more perspective, I’ve been reading about the stages of faith,

    and I am finding myself shifting through phases 4/5/6, back and forth depending on the principle and experience.

    I think only as a broad generalization, can we say that a person is in one particular stage or another. I prefer to use the language Fowler provides as a way to talk about our thoughts and feelings regarding faith. We are complex, and rarely would anyone’s personal beliefs and viewpoint be only from the vantage point of a single “stage.”

    So I say to myself “That thought of mine is a stage 3 way of seeing it,” or “This other feeling I had about my experience at Church today seems like it comes from a Stage 5 perspective.”

    It all depends on the person and their faith perspective in individual areas of experience.

    Thanks for all the insights, and please keep them coming.

    I found this particular post above helpful, thanks.

    in reply to: Confession #122200
    quietblue
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    So would informal probation be considered institutional discipline or just a “spiritual health” plan

    in reply to: Growing #121498
    quietblue
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    Been feeling pretty drained by confessing to my bishop,

    I’d rather clear it up with God

    and quit trusting in the arm of the flesh, because that’s exactly what it feels like.

    in reply to: Temples too many, a sign of our decline #122041
    quietblue
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    primarycolor wrote:

    Not like it used to be.

    D&C reads that Zion IS the pure in heart.

    don’t we believe in revelation?

    in reply to: Temples too many, a sign of our decline #122040
    quietblue
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    primarycolor wrote:

    It took 40 years to build the Salt Lake Temple, now we build 40 in ten years, and increasing. Why?

    Consider all of the technological advances that have occurred from the mid 1800s to now, and it should answer this question.

    Of course the Church is going to build more temples in various areas to allow membership access to more ordinances. It just makes sense.

    And personally I would say that the higher number of temples should go to show the rate of the world’s decline, not the Gospel’s.

    in reply to: Is religion-induced fear integral to Mormonism? #121730
    quietblue
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    HiJolly wrote:

    Faith driveth away all fear. MW, have faith in Christ, and none of these need consume you. Whether you’re Mormon or not.

    AMEN

    in reply to: May I have your, Belief-O-Matic, please? #120402
    quietblue
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    Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (100%)

    Hinduism (94%)

    Mahayana Buddhism (88%)

    I took the test twice and these were my top 3

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