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I have also discovered that navigating with the back feature can cause double posts, at least on my cheapie android phone Oh I just remembered another issue that was about finding Egyptian sarcophaguses in the Grand Canyon which area is not accessible to the public. but you would have to be a bit conspiratorial about the Smithsonian and academia to give it merit. OK. Leaving this thread alone unless engaged by OP. Peace out. I think Heber nailed it when he said it was the spiritual experiences. I was ex’d too and I explored all kinds of spiritual paths. Jewish stuff, evangelical, Pentecostal (scary), Baptists (they are quick to believe in predestination and everyone that hasnt gotten a chance to hear about Jesus will burn in hell), New Age stuff like Edgar Cacey (which experimenting with resulted in a demonic manifestations), alchemy, apochrapha, astrology, ancient aliens, etc. Nothing made more sense than LDS theology. Having the gift of the HG and having it stripped from you… it feels empty. The only way was for me to get that back. Despite my disaffection. Thanks Roy, E4T, Ray and others. The Spirit seems to be here and I believe you all are an inspired and inspiring bunch. I wish the leadership would administer Carl Jung personality tests before administering callings
If you have the disposable income, I think you can still purchase old back issues of Ancient Americamagazines. They are kinda pricey but they have lots and lots of non orthodox archaeological stuff. I used to to have an extensive collection of the back issues and a subscription. Unfortunately I let a member borrow them and he never gave them back. One of my faves was the one about Burroughs Cave in Illinois. They found and photographed a bunch of gold coins. There was another issue that had an article about a dig site in a town I was living in. It was Natchitoches,LA. I went to the temporary museum and sure enough there were Native American graves with horse skeletons that predated Columbus. Roy: yes I have guilt about the thoughts that maybe I’m a daughter of perdition sometimes for not enduring that particular calling. As I said, the class was mostly TBMs and new converts. The manual was focused on infallibility of modern leaders and obedience… whatever was on the menu for 2010 or 2011. I couldn’t stomach indoctrinating the newbies or being a band wagon jumper-on-er with the TBMs. Perhaps I was petty or couldn’t see the forest for the trees. Maybe selfish, disobedient, stiff neck– insert whatever character flaw–etc. I actually feel much more spiritual being inactive. Attending regularly seems to bring out resentment and anger. I did not have a temple marriage, didn’t really enjoy being a mother nor domestic duties (tho I LOVE my daughters very much), and feeling like an oddball and a general failure. Hearing all the motherhood sermons, that we must enjoy the company of the saints (when I couldn’t wait for church to be over so I could get away from the vast majority of them), the infallibility of leaders yet telling us to read scriptures while they are usurping there tenets (even JS with polygamy), white washing history, etc., is not condusive to feel the Spirit. Nor is being inactive and feeling an unprofitable handmaid/servant. But I’m grateful to find this place. I can feel comfortable fellowshipping here without fearing reprisal.
I should really think I would be busting through the church doors every time they open be a former ex’d member. But I have a fear of local leaders who can arbitrarily discipline one for not conforming to every jot and tittle.
I don’t think having a calling you absolutely loathe yet trying to stick it out because we are programmed to never say no, (I’ve heard is like telling the Saviour no in his face to refuse a calling) is very edifying. I was called to a RS calling but I did not attend RS meeting very often. It made me dread Sundays. I finally became inactive. I feel guilty oftentimes for not “magnifying” my calling and wondering if it is the equivalent of saying no to Jesus while other times I wondered if the leaders were just trying to coerse me in attending RS regularly. I was fine with being the adult SS teacher. But most of the time I cut out after SS. I didn’t like the RS manual and the group was mostly TBMs. They weren’t all that tolerant of divergence from the manual. To avoid a train wreck of causing contention in the class and likely many meetings with bishopric I stopped trying to engineer the train altogether. I will have follow up with resources later but I used study this topic somewhat obcessively. 1. Evidence for pre-Columbian horses like described the BoM.
2. Extensive highway systems that still haven’t been excavated fully and made with a cement we cannot duplicate.
3. There have been several toys with wheels found though mainstream science says the natives didn’t have wheel technology.
4. The Bat Creek stone and many other relics with Hebrew inscriptions (could be fakes but I would like to believe are genuine).
I have more but none are really from orthodox archaeological sources. Of course this isn’t an orthodox audience
Plus I like the whole premise of ” choose this day whom ye serve” in Joshua but kind of don’t. Still looking for a middle way wading in absolutes and being ambivalent about ultatimatins. Trying to walk a straight and narrow is so grey when absolutes have so much appeal for their black and white properties. It is comfortable. Truth doesn’t seem to care about comfort I wish I could do that but I devour any biblical archaeology to support some of my literal views. I think the easier route would be the allegorical/metaphorical paradigm. Perhaps I haven’t progressed enough to do that yet. Mike you can get hurt by sharing. Though I applaud you for being vulnerable and putting yourself out there. Like other posters have said, local leadership is a crap shoot and there could be consequences. Perhaps I’m paranoid since I feel I was a victim of a BP that was zealous in thinking his calling was to cleanse the Church. OMgoodness SD! My sentiments exactly. One time they ( Hollywood folk) made a movie in my small town. Well the residents for the most part got all goo-goo eyed and star struck. I thought they were annoying and disrupted traffic. Glad they left. Just a bunch of over paid folks to play-pretend I can empathise because I was released from my calling as SS teacher to be a RS counsellor. I didn’t like the clique of the “old bitty committee” and became inactive. Yet as a person that has a propensity to hold grudges, the Be attitudes in the NT have helped my “Oscar the Grouch” type personality forgive, let go, shed heavy burdens, love humanity and not lose ‘ my natural affection” though individual humans get on my d@men nerves. But I’m a person that needs s lot of forgiveness. I need abundance grace. My sins are many so I must love much. I have prayed for enemies. I didn’t like it. It was hard. I felt it was fake becuz I really felt insincere. It works. I actually loved my enemies for a while. I just can’t do the endure to the end part. But if that is not a weakness of yours, then I testify the bless those that curse you thing works.
