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Like someone said already, any speaker can change what is published if they feel like it. I don’t think it means anything and using the word “censorship” is hyperbole, big time. If I remember correctly, I think a patriarch can change the wording in a patriarchal blessing as he is transcribing it if he feels so inspired. Pres. Monson changing his talk is pretty much the same thing. I think it was a good change. Oh and I hate Sheldon (the tv character), he bugs me.
turinturambar wrote:
I hate to say this…but if I were in your situation, I’d avoid listening to conference live. Wait for a few days, and find out what the most nurturing talks are, and only listen to/read those. Forget about the others. I understand that E Packer, E Oaks, E Bednar and others represent diversity in a positive way; however, their messages are simply too damaging for some people at certain stages in their spiritual journey. Take nourishment from what you need and cut out the rest. For now. Maybe later, you’ll feel strong enough to endure ultra-conservative talk without being wounded. I’ve been trying this strategy for the past year or so, and it seems to work fairly well. BTW, I had decided not to listen to any of conference this time, but ended up hearing the first session, and I’m glad I did.This is exactly what I do. I feel that it helps me the best. I can’t handle some talks and immediately begin to develop bad feelings for the church as I hear them. I don’t like having those feelings so I’d rather avoid those talks altogether.
MayB wrote:We’re going to sit down later this week (DH and I) and talk about our core values and come up with a list of the top ten that we want to instill in our children. These will be a big part of how we approach teaching them and focusing our own thoughts on religion.
I really like this. It’s good to see parents take an active role in choosing what values they want their children to have rather than just allowing the church or some other entity do it for them. I hope to do the same someday when I have a family. Good luck!
I don’t have much to add other than I absolutely agree with you. It’s our personal relationship with Christ and our Heavenly Father that matters not our collective relationship. We do not and will never need a go between as you mentioned. It’s sad that others feel that way sometimes. I think it’s great to have standards but like I said, if you are going to be disappointed by men that have seen pornography then be prepared to be disappointed by every man that doesn’t lie to you. girlygirl wrote:I’m thankful for my sensitivity however at the same time there have been guys in my life who mention something about porn or going to strip clubs and I just automatically can’t have the same relationship with them again and almost write them off. I know it sounds horrible but thats how I feel and now I just feel so gross about this guy. I want to stop judging though!
I’m not trying to say it’s ok or that it should be normal but remember that “99% of men have looked at pornography and the other 1% lie.”
Well I am currently working on my degree from BYU but decided after this past semester ended to take a job in wyoming and to work til December. I then plan on transferring to Utah state (my application is in and I already have a scholarship! woot). So don’t feel pressured to go to BYU. Do what you want to do. I spent 7 semesters at BYU and it has been awful. There have been some good times but overall the pressure is always there to be a certain person with certain goals and to get married. It is absolutely overwhelming and there have been some times when I was miserable at that school. Even in these past few months I have had nightmares that I am trapped there. SO that is only one person’s opinion but if you think that you will be overwhelmed with pressure at BYU or that you won’t be able to be yourself then you’re right and you made the right decision to go elsewhere.
Most definitely. My sister attends byu and she is already on the receiving end of a lot of criticism and pressure since she has no desire to serve a mission. I think it is unhealthy in general to pressure someone to serve be it male or female. Shawn, are we even members of the same church? What everyone has said about the church and how the members ‘typically’ treat those that do not go on missions or are sent home is correct (of course that is according to my opinion and perspective). I used to find myself judging them in the same way before I realized I had basically been indoctrinated to believe that. I kicked those thoughts pretty quickly at that point. When I was on a mission I had awful depression and was just dying to go home at some point and be done with the mission. The main reason I didn’t go home was because I thought that I would disappoint my parents to the extent that they would love me less. That is absolutely false and my parents are wonderful but that is what I had been taught to believe, that I would somehow be less of a person since I went home early. How awful is that? The culture of the church is a heartless beast sometimes. Edit: It occurs to me that my “faith crisis” has absolutely nothing to do with the Gospel, the scriptures or my faith. It has everything to do with the culture of the church. I bet there are others of us who also fall into that category.
Old-Timer wrote:That MP was wrong – and WAY beyond his authority to say it. That stuff really bothers me.
I know right? But oh well, such is life. My brother is a good guy no matter what anyone says about him.
My brother was also sent home from his mission about a year and a half ago. It seems similar to your experience except that my brother’s mission president told him he could never finish his mission and couldn’t go back out. I don’t know if that was from God. Anyway here is my advice: Whatever you do be as supportive as possible and don’t you dare let the culture and unrighteous judgements of some church members break your brother. Some of the best missionaries I knew on my mission were those that got sent home and returned to the mission field. They understood the Atonement better than most because they had actually experienced it (not saying others necessarily haven’t). But seriously stand by your brother in everything he goes through, support him in his decisions and help him get himself back out there if he wants to go back. My brother is still inactive because of the crap he faced being sent home early and I’m still pretty mad about it but oh well. Just my 2 cents. Doctrine and Covenants 121:34 – 41 has always helped me to see the difference between the priesthood and those that hold the priesthood. Definitely not the same. Katzpur wrote:Based on their statements, I have often felt even more isolated from the Church than every, because I do have a testimony of Mormonism’s core doctrines. I love the LDS understanding of the Plan of Salvation and our concept of the nature of God and our relationship to him, as well all of the more peripheral doctrines that tie into them. What I have a hard (and that’s an understatement, let me tell you) time with is LDS culture. I feel as if I can never say anything the slightest bit critical about a Church policy or program without having everyone within earshot look at me in horror.
I completely agree with you. I have a strong testimony of important Gospel doctrine such as the Atonement and the Plan of Salvation but I don’t see anything wrong with disagreeing with how things are done in the church (other than ordinances in my opinion). The church isn’t necessarily the Gospel and I mostly see them as different. The church does its best to represent the Gospel but the culture is really slowing down our progress and inhibiting the acceptance of new and different members. I’m grateful for the church and for the work it does but there can always be improvements made. But I guess those decisions are above my pay grade haha.
