[sailaway]

HSAB wrote:

Sailaway, are the items that you disagree with opinion, or is there anything I am mistaken about in the history. I would love to know if I made any mistakes on this-especially if I end up posting it somewhere public.

Sorry, I wasn’t referring to your list, just the link I posted!

[sailaway]

DBMormon wrote:

my thoughts only.

I see President Monson as the Prophet. To be a prophet one must prophesy. While I don’t suggest he receives revelations constantly, I see him as the one whom if the Lord gives a revelation to the world, it will be through him. That is enough for me to see him as the prophet. That in essence he holds the keys and can only reveal what God chooses to reveal. That said I think we also have to take into account that Post Christ prophet is a different function then pre Christ prophet. We sometimes want to make them seem the same. I see President Monson in the same way I see Peter (or whoever your facts say was the head apostle).

The new testament shows the apostles as very human, disagreeing vehemently with each other and revelation seeming sporadic at times. I see our apostles in the same light.

I’d mostly agree with this. I don’t think everything that comes from the prophet’s mouth is gospel truth and I think he’s perfectly capable of making mistakes or merely voicing his personal opinion/counsel (i.e. only one pair of earrings.)

[sailaway]

Great post. I could not agree with you more and, as a woman, share your pain and frustration.

For the men trying to understand, I really appreciate that. So many men are dismissive and defensive instead of actually looking through a woman’s perspective and how the experiences of men and women differ in the church. (Of course, the same could be said for some TBM women who refuse to acknowledge those that feel unequal and marginalized.) There are a couple items on the list I don’t agree with, but most of it is pretty accurate. Regardless, I think the inequalities in the church hurt men and woman alike. http://www.i4m.com/think/lists/mormon_gender.htm

[sailaway]

I think we can agree that the obsession with appearance, nitpicky unofficial rules, and strict grooming and dress expectations for church suck for both men and women. There are stories of women being tut-tutted for pants or sandals or supposed immodesty. Men are chastised for facial hair, colored shirts, or lack of a tie. It’s not doctrinal and it’s completely pointless.

“The worst sinners, according to Jesus, are not the harlots and publicans, but the religious leaders with their insistence on proper dress and grooming, their careful observance of all the rules, their precious concern for status symbols, their strict legality, their pious patriotism… the haircut becomes the test of virtue in a world where Satan deceives and rules by appearances.”- Hugh Nibley

[sailaway]

I’d love a two hour block. I say just do away with Sunday school. Maybe every fourth Sunday could be a combined Priesthood/RS meeting.

[sailaway]

I once visited an old Nazi bunker in France and I could just feel the evil. If I’d been an adult, I might have written it off as merely an emotional experience at the knowledge of the events that occurred there, but I was only eleven and wasn’t really aware of the significance. It’s hard to describe the oppressive, crushing, malevolent atmosphere.

[Author]

Posts