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DarkJedi wrote:
SamBee wrote:
Roy wrote:
Fascinating! There is so much about the various branches of Mormonism that I do not know. Thanks for sharing this.
Agreed. And I think we’re sometimes programmed to think that outside RLDS/CoC they are extreme. Not the case at all.
I think most members even think the Community of Christ is extreme/radical, especially with their changes in recent years to be more mainstream Christian. Other than the denial of Joseph Smith’s polygamy, I find the teachings/beliefs of the CoC to often be more in line with my own. There is a congregation about 30 miles from where I live and I have considered visiting.
We have no CoC here but when they are mentioned at all it is when they are said to have no authority or to be too liberal…
But they aren’t boogeymen like FLDS etc.
I would have to travel hundreds of miles to get to a congregation.
Roy wrote:
Fascinating! There is so much about the various branches of Mormonism that I do not know. Thanks for sharing this.
Agreed. And I think we’re sometimes programmed to think that outside RLDS/CoC they are extreme. Not the case at all.
One of the things I haven’t liked is that the media here has constantly been blaming religion for the spread. Not sports games, supermarkets, Amazon or high schools but religion. It really seems to be singled out for special attention and it’s wrong. Many non-religious people don’t seem to see the value in religious services. I had this conversation with someone recently, who goes to the gym on a regular basis. The gyms are now shut in this country, but for my money, a gym is a far worse vector for spreading a respiratory disease than a church, especially as people can take their masks off in it, handle everything and pant over everything.. But he still blamed religion. That is how ingrained anti-religious feeling has become here. A church service at least gives people hope and happiness and is less infectious than any gym.
Oh and you can also take planes here, although religious services are banned..Flights to other countries in an air conditioned container.
DarkJedi wrote:
Roy wrote:
I too have wondered how to get announcements to people that are not present in sacrament meeting. I have seen some other churches use billboards, sandwich boards, Pamphlets, Flyers, or websites to get the word out. We as a church are not as good at doing that. My ward does have a Facebook page and I am a member of it but I have not seen any announcements communicated through it. I would consider it an improvement if they did start posting announcements in this way.
I think our ward primarily uses email, which is only slightly better and still leaves out some people. They do always include a line about sharing with ministering families that may not have email. I don’t know how well that happens. On the other hand, with no activities there are few announcements to be made.
I think email has a better reach and while some of it has connections with big tech e.g. Gmail, it is a lot less toxic than social media.
Just now I pray for a solution to our situation and that evil men will not be able to exploit to their own ends DarkJedi wrote:
I can see how that can be frustrating Sam. As I said my ward has a Facebook page but that’s not the only way to get the announcements. That’s because I live in a rural area where some people don’t have internet access at home and we also have some Luddites in our ward. Fortunately our leadership understands that.
We have a number of elderly people but I think the attitude has been that most of them have been wrapped in cotton wool the last year or so.
I remember my first day on Facebook. A friend and his cousin having a fight. Went downhill from there. I enjoy the groups, but I don’t like the whole “friend” thing because certain people get prioritized and deprioritized. Politics and religion don’t go down well on it – I’m including atheism under those tags.
They’ve revamped the website recently. Big tech does this on a regular basis, however I find it is rarely an improvement. Certainly not this time as I can’t see the most essential feature – messenger – without going through several steps.
By the by, there is a massive controversy in Australia now regarding Facebook and Google. I think 70% of the Aussie population are on it, but they’ve admitted to manipulating the news people can see and it’s got them into trouble with the government.
Thank you for starting this thread. D&C is by far the dryest part of the scriptures, unless one counts the more legalistic parts of the OT like Leviticus. nibbler wrote:During a lesson, would it be appropriate to try to create some space for people to arrive at a different conclusion? For example, “Some people feel that the differences are in more than just the details and that the differences are enough to make the accounts inconsistent with one another. Can we make room for people that arrive at that conclusion?”
I believe there are universal laws, which we should try and adhere to. About murder, adultery and so on.
However, and I don’t want to become too relativist, we also have individual requirements. Even with something like lying there may be some acceptable exceptions. A POW taken in the Vietnam War or by Islamic State would be quite right to give false information to his or her captors.
There are parts of D&C which have little obvious relevance today. It contains names of people who are barely remembered. We have to ask how each of these things apply to each of us individually. The application may not always be the same.
There are legitimate concerns about the vaccine such as the speed it was rolled out and so on. Or who is making money off it. Or the fact that this is not a traditional vaccine at all. I am not anti-vaxx in the usual sense, I have been vaccinated for a number of things in the past – off the top of my head – TB, polio, smallpox, rabies (now expired 🐶 ), malaria (also expired), tetanus etc…Part of me appreciates the fact that President Nelson is leading from the front on this, but the other part of me despises the way this entire thing has been handled. Democratic debate squashed in many forums. Abuse of anyone who goes against the grain. The health campaign is also being spearheaded by a corrupt billionaire.
I don’t have any problem with masks. I was wearing one months before the government demanded it. It was uncomfortable and people abused me for doing so. Now they all have to wear them too. By law.
DarkJedi wrote:How are you forced to use Facebook? Just asking, I don’t understand. Our ward has a Facebook page but that’s not the only way to get announcements or information.
I like cats too, but not so much cat videos.
It’s gotten worse since lockdown. Before I used to sit in church, hear all the announcements, speak to people etc. Now our government has banned church services – again – although our supermarkets remain untouched.
🤔 Every announcement goes through FB. If you’re not on there you won’t hear about it basically. Ward and stake. The ward group is private. You won’t see it without joining. No one sees any problem with this. We do have a stake newsletter which is emailed, and I’d prefer that, but it is mostly there to lift members’ spirits in these horrible times. But the recent FB revamp has made accessing messenger more complex, and I’ve a) no desire to download the app and b) not enough memory to so.
I’m on our Ward Council (sorry, that’s one of my secrets out
😆 ) and outside our Zoom meetings, all our discussions take place through it. So if I don’t do that, I’m locked out. And I suspect I would lose my calling. I believe I have been able to do some good over the past year (despite my pessimism and cynicism about what’s happening) and have streamlined our ministering system with some help, so that we can deal with lockdown issues. I have also helped roll out necessary adjustments to welfare for our post-Covid conditions. And arranged an online Christmas concert for some shut ins with special needs.I did bring this issue up with the last bishopric, but nothing changed. We have a new bishopric and I have remarked on it again. I don’t want to be seen as a troublemaker. I am on good terms with our local leaders and I want to keep it that way especially in these times.
I was very glad to see Zuckerberg being grilled recently by American politicians. I really think that man has abused his position and should be held accountable (by both parties). As should some of his colleagues in Twitter, Amazon and Google.
DarkJedi wrote:
SamBee wrote:
I’ve probably said this before, but I FAR prefer this format to Social Media for a variety of reasons. There is a much better atmosphere on here and I find it easier to search through and read.
I concur. I don’t do social media for that very reason.
I’m forced to use Facebook by the church. I have complained about it. Nowadays it shows me notifications for cat videos* but not messages.
I think it’s disgusting the way it spies on people.
* Not that I dislike cats. The videos are corny though.
I have to admit I would not be comfortable as a mature man asking little girls about pornography. I think if I was a bishopric member, I would practically insist to have a parent/guardian present. However, I do appreciate children are being corrupted by it at a very young age. It greatly sorrows me that I first encountered a magazine at age seven or so, which I think is far too young. I have it on good authority from my former non-LDS therapist that pornography is causing massive problems is causing big problems among adolescents – body image problems for one.
I’ve probably said this before, but I FAR prefer this format to Social Media for a variety of reasons. There is a much better atmosphere on here and I find it easier to search through and read. These guys have a few new videos out: Movie Review Mom takes a look at : Wonderwoman 1984
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