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That’s what worries me! Canada west is a lot different than the eastern US Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
“The Church of course doesn’t attempt to practice mind control, and people have varying opinions. It’s only a problem if there is advocacy and people lobby and advocate against the standard and the very clear and expressed position of the Church as it has been stated repeatedly, and again now.” This part of the interview concerns me. I have always thought the church was fine with our feelings about same sex issues, but it seems that he is saying here something different. Last week I publicly expressed my distaste for the policy, my dad called me an apostate for it, and now I am worried a leader could see it that way as well. Am I being paranoid?
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My husband said he felt like all missionary efforts he did during his residency was erased. Now all those friends are liking the posts on Facebook about the mass resignation. I personally am embarrassed to be called a Mormon right now and don’t want to be branded as one. I hope that they didn’t anticipate this, because if they did, thanks for making our lives harder while drawing some unnecessary line in the sand. I think we all knew how the church felt about homosexuality, and now I am trying to protect loved ones who are married to same gender partners. It feels like bullying to me. Sorry if I come off angry, I want to be the level headed person, but I find it hard lately Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I can’t even begin to say how upset I have been over this policy change this last week. I cried for days. I made a statement that I wasn’t happy about it, attached hawkgirl’s post, and I got hammered because I wasn’t following the prophet. I have also gotten numerous emails from people bearing their testimony to me. It’s been extremely invalidating and lonely! This clarification doesn’t do it for me. What does “primary” residence mean? Does that exclude kids in shared custody situations?? I just see this as a custody nightmare for families. The grandfathered thing rings hallow to me. I’m just tired of hearing “I just don’t understand why people are even unhappy about this”. It’s been an emotionally draining week and has pushed me closer to the edge than I have ever been before. I was really praying for a reversal of at least anything pertaining to children, but instead just got a clear as mud clarification. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I was just going to share this!!! You beat me to it amateurparent. I absolutely loved this and have been wanting to share it on Facebook. I’m just worried it could “out” me too much. It was totally soothing to my sad day today. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
This is really beautiful! I have been going through things lately, wondering how I can soothe my family because of the struggles that I go through. I have tried to be silently “not Mormon enough”, it doesn’t work. I have tried being totally honest, not soothing. I just hope that one day I can find a way to be able to say “I am Mormon enough to participate in my Mormon family and our shared Mormon culture in a meaningful way.” Thanks again for the share! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
nibbler wrote:It might be helpful to include a question about how long it has been since the religious change. They might get a sense of whether the relationship takes an initial impact but recovers over time or whether the relationship changes are more or less permanent. If the relationship recovers over time they might be able to give a ballpark idea about how long it takes to weather such a storm.
I agree with this!
I also think it would be interesting to have the spouse’s survey attached, if they were to take it. This way you could see if their answers were similar and if they were seeing the crisis in the same way?
It would be really interesting to see the results
Loved this. Especially “attacked oppositions spelling or grammar instead of their argument”. How many times have I seen that? Thanks for the chuckle Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Thank you DJ for your thoughts. I think I have some similar thoughts, but I think my beliefs and understanding on Christ are a lot stronger than on God. So when my brother asked me those questions about God, I just couldn’t answer. I hadn’t really faced those questions yet, within myself especially. It’s going to be a long work in progress, this is where I fight my impatience. [emoji30] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I ache for you Jack! I think all of us are shocked when this happens, like On Own Now said. I never imagined I would ever question my faith. I did everything to keep strong and I was blindsided. But this is such a good place to be. So positive and quite a bit less cynical than NOM, and I have been held together because of the people on this site. So welcome and feel free to share anything and everything! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
This is all very interesting to me. I have swayed in this past almost 9 months from one spectrum to another. I hope for many things. I hope there is a God who loves me. I really hope.
I hope there is a Savior who died for me. I have had a strong relationship to Him in the past and am trying to find it again.
I have become quite the believer in being already saved and that being good is about love. That the more love you have for others and for God, the more you will want to serve others and Him.
I am just trying to answer a question my brother asked me recently. He has removed his records from the church now and has become atheist. I told him I still believe in God, but the church is tougher for me. He asked me about God and said “what is the point of our lives then? Is this just a game to Him? What is our purpose?” I was taken back with this question. I thought about receiving bodies and maybe that is the real test. Maybe we put too much emphasis on the test of faith and maybe just learning how a body works is more important than we thought?? Maybe it’s just about creation? Like families?? I just don’t know anymore. I don’t want to become atheist, but I just am so confused now. I love believing in God and Christ, but this FC has really thrown me for a loop.
DJ–not to put you on the spot…but I am. Haha. As a deist, what have been your thoughts on this topic? Have you ever thought about what the reason is for life? Anyone else have thoughts on this? It would help me out a lot! Thanks for this topic Rob4Hope.
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I found it all very uncomfortable! I got it two weeks in a row from my new home ward and from a ward when on vacation. UGH! The vacation ward had someone say “those people put their sins in our faces”. I almost died! I decided church was a skip day that day. Then our home ward was better. He started out with a joke about how we needed to read this letter even though it’s been legal in Canada for 10 years already. He then asked for questions after and no one made any comments about it at all. He said, thanks guys for making my life easier, and you can come see me privately if you have anything to say that you don’t want to say here. I thought he did a great job. But I also got a lot of flack for putting up a rainbow flag over my profile pic, which I did before the letter from the church came out. I was nervous about the part where it said that you could be up for church discipline if you push your views on others. Not sure what that means…but my DH said the flag wouldn’t cause me to be excommunicated. He actually told me to put it up because I have family members who are gay and he said that they should feel our love. It was a huge win for them.
But I couldn’t believe that first ward. “Those people”???? Yikes!!! I wanted to respond, but my angry tears came out and I knew I would look foolish. Especially since I was a visitor. I just can’t make myself believe there is anything wrong with it.
DH was talking about the D&C and how there is a scripture that talks about how if a sin is too difficult to follow, the lord takes that commandment away from them. I do not know where it is, but he has brought it up a few times. I love that idea and I hope if I can ever really believe in this church again, I will take on that belief. This is the God I believe in. A loving, understanding, and most forgiving father who doesn’t want to damn us.
Hopefully any of this makes sense. For some reason typing on the phone makes it harder to focus. Haha
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Ann–I agree, but I think it will be a great opportunity for discussion. I hate being judged, but I think this is a softer way to start a discussion on faith in Christ and that a cross is not misunderstanding the sacrifice Christ made for us. I just hope people take it well, not look at me as an outsider. DJ- there are cool leather bracelets for men with crosses on them or a mans ring even?? I think it may be a bit of a fashion faux pas to wear a cross with a shirt and tie. [emoji6]. Haha kidding.
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I was just talking about this with my husband. It doesn’t make any sense to me that we “don’t” wear crosses. I was taught it was disrespectful to Christ. I had actually decided I was going to start wearing one because I truly want a reminder of how much I love what Christ sacrificed for me. His life! I am most definitely in. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
