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Job is often thought to have been written in the Persian period, so anachronisms aren’t really surprising. I’d be a little more cautious in calling the KJV renderings anachronisms, though. It is more likely the translators used the names that would be familiar with their readers.

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Old-Timer wrote:

Unless you accept that “ye are gods and children of the most high God”.

I have words come into my mind on various occasion that were more like a separate voice than at other times, but I have never, not once, in my entire life, “heard an external voice” in the classic, traditional sense. I’m fine with that. I’m doing the best I can with who I am, and, ultimately, that’s the standard we have.

I had that classic, traditional external voice happen once, and only once in my life. Ironically, it is the one I’m most suspicious of.

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journeygirl wrote:

This is why I feel like I’ve never had a real testimony. I have not had experiences that I couldn’t easily attribute to my own thoughts or emotions. If it isn’t a clearly external sensation, then how can I ever know if it is from God (letting me know there is a God) or if it is just myself. Doing what feels right is certainly a way to go about life. But when it comes to spiritual knowledge, then it seems like a problem to not have a clear way to tell the spirit from oneself.

I feel like I do have a real testimony, but not because they it derives from something that couldn’t be attributed to my own thoughts or feelings. Mostly, I’ve just assumed that God is working through them. I figure as long as try to put them forth as “proof” of anything, that isn’t a problem.

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You don’t need to be sure about whether the good feelings are from the Spirit or just your own human feeling. Start with what you know. You know God created you. You know that good feelings result from doing good things. You know that phenomena is either universal or nearly so. Put it together and what do you get? God created you with an inborn reward mechanism for doing good things. “Likewise all to whom God gives … to … find enjoyment in their toil–this is the gift of God” (Ecclesiastes 5:19, NRSV).

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mackay11 wrote:

Hi Tagriffy, nice to have you join us.

Thanks. Someone recommended the board to me. I’m still not exactly sure what role I can play here, but I’m sure I’ll get it figured out.

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Old-Timer wrote:

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How do you make the distinction?

Yup, that’s the $64million question – and why we have to honor every individual’s right to make that call and value diversity of opinion about it.

Maybe I should answer my own question then. I do it case-by-case. The main questions I ask are, Does it make sense? Does it have mythological power?

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Shawn wrote:

Cadence wrote:

Doctrine, tradition or cultural conformity. Is there really a difference? They all come from the same source that is men. So I do not see the distinction

I still believe true doctrine comes from God.

How do you make the distinction?

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QuestionAbound wrote:

If we were to strip away the things that irk us about the church organization and culture, and practice “pure gospel”…how would we define it?

What is the Savior’s gospel…the whole thing as we understand it?

I know it’s simple, but I want to break it down and list exactly what we need to know.

Thanks in advance.

Don Bradley argued Joseph broke it down to the grand fundamentals of truth, friendship, and relief. See https://www.sunstonemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/141-32-41.pdf.

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