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I lived in two different branches that covered large areas. We had pot lucks once a month after the block. Most of the people looked forward to them. Now I’m in an Idaho ward and I can’t wait to get home. The ward is experimenting with a linger longer. Not a full blown potluck though. We’ve had one but I missed it because of other commitments. I’m not sure how successful it was.
Roy wrote:DontKnow wrote:Random question: If the Second Coming is an event that’s actually going to happen, will there still be spirits in the pre-mortal realm? If so, what happens to them? Do they just get sent to other worlds?
Saw a movie that had the end begin when the last spirit was born. 11th hour or 11th sign, something like that.
Different churches deal with this in different ways. When they have clear prophecies about date ranges then they tend to do the whole “it was a spiritual occurance” thing. I don’t see that in our own church. If anything, we are getting less and less apocalyptic as time goes on.
The Seventh Sign. The Guf is emptied.
Welcome. I don’t want to repeat what others have said but I do want to let you know that you have access to many of the procedural questions you might have. Anyone with Internet access can read the Church Handbook of Instructions Book 2. Here is a quote from the handbook pertaining to the name and a blessing.
Quote:A bishop may allow a father who holds the Melchizedek Priesthood to name and bless his children even if the father is not fully temple worthy. Likewise, a bishop may allow a father who is a priest or Melchizedek Priesthood holder to baptize his children or to ordain his sons to offices in the Aaronic Priesthood. A Melchizedek Priesthood holder in similar circumstances may be allowed to stand in the circle for the confirmation of his children, for the conferral of the Melchizedek Priesthood on his sons, or for the setting apart of his wife or children. However, he may not act as voice.
There is a common misconception that many ordinances require you to have a temple recommend to perform the ordinance. This is not entirely true. The handbook states temple worthy. The catch is how is temple worthiness determined?
Wow. Like a Phoenix rising from the ashes a thread almost five years old comes back to life with fire. I’m a convert of over 30 years. I’ve lived most of my LDS life in the “mission field”. My most unhappy times in the church have been in “Zion”. It appeared to me that the pioneers were worshipped and those without pioneer ancestry were not as good. Just my thoughts and observations. So yes, I see a rift at time but it shouldn’t be there and it shouldn’t diminish the contributions either make to the Church.
I was lazy and should have put the description in quotes. I’m male. I’m passing along the survey request.
I edited the OP. Hope it’s clearer now.
convert1992 wrote:Hi Curtis!
I totally agree with your post. Modest (which in LDS-speak means covered up) is not always non-provocative, and immodest (revealing) is not always provocative. Which is more sexually provocative to a 20-year-old male missionary passing by: a young woman dressed in a black tank top and short shorts and flip flops on a hot summer day, with very little makeup and plain straight hair pulled back with a scrunchie, and her bare legs are ewww not worthy of being bare; or
a middle-aged woman with Farrah-Fawcett-era hair and perfect makeup to go with her botox and other cosmetic ahem enhancements, dressed in a satin blouse and knee-length pencil skirt with four-inch black pumps, who knows how to act and walk in a sexy way? Are you talking about many of the women I see at church on Sunday?
I want to think it is as simple as the two great commandments but when I listen to doctrine and practices I get lost. Then I hear from the pulpit how simple the gospel is I get angry because to me it isn’t simple, it’s darned complicated. SamBee wrote:Thoreau, what about all those bits falling off us all the time? Do our skin flakes, loose hairs and nail clippings come back? What about our gut fauna and flora? Or the blood, mucus and saliva that’s leaked out of our body from time to time?
I think this is the problem if we’re too literal. I have no problem with the bodily resurrection, but I see it as our idealized body… however when it says “every hair shall be restored”, I think it means one will have a full head of hair, not a monstrous impossible Afro.
ps Great title, Curtis.
That’s why I don’t believe in the literal. We are all made of star stuff. We have atoms in us that used to be in someone or something else.
Rant away. It often helps to get it out of the system. I would caution you that you don’t take things personally, especially the interaction between you and the bishopric. Remember the bishop has to consider the whole ward, not just the RS. The RS presidency might feel strongly about a certain person and the primary and YW might feel just as strong about the same person. Or maybe the bishop is privy to information the auxiliary leaders don’t have and the person is not a good fit for the calling for whatever reason. Are you the RS president or a counselor? If you’re the president then things are not being done properly. If you’re a counselor then the RS president is the one not keeping you in the loop, not the bishopric. You’ve received some really good advice so I’ll be my usual self and not be wordy. My faith crisis did not cause my depression but it contributed to it.
I don’t think having an LDS counselor when a faith crisis is part of what you are receiving counseling for is a great idea unless that counselor is able to keep his church out of the office. I live in Idaho Falls, in the Mormon Corridor. My counselor is with the VA and is not LDS. She does have a lot of LDS clients, as you can guess. She sees a lot of church related problems with the vets she counsels.
