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It’s just disgusting that Fidel Castro got a more positive obit than Castro did. Sure, there is no denying that the Church’s record on LGBT rights isn’t that great. But to make a political statement with someone’s death? Golly. A common theme I hear regarding masturbation and pornography is that it will distort your view of what real love is. This is simply a load of crap in my opinion. I mean whatever happened to everything in moderation? If you are not allowing it to hurt anyone or affect someone else in a negative way then what’s the big deal? In my experience I have seen cases where the more financially well off members of my stake/ward have received special privileges to a certain extent. While I think our church does a much better job at preventing this on a macro scale, it does occur on the micro level. (stakes, wards). I noticed that growing up in my youth the stake youth council was mostly the rich popular kids. Sure, maybe they gave them these callings because they were well known but still. I was never one of the popular kids, I was mostly an outsider. Another case was that we had one of those fund raisers to fund the youth activities such as girl scouting. (They were allowed to have one a year). And it was like an auction format. However, most of the items were very expensive things. All the way from a boat to one of those really fancy golf carts. I mean, how do you think those who couldn’t afford that but wanted to give money on something? Most of the things that were supposed to be auctioned were things like baked goods, homemade items like quilts, blankets and other things. Or services provided by the youth. i.e. 3 lawn mowing or pool clearings. But nonetheless the rich snobs in my ward hijacked it and turned it into a contest of who has can write the check with the most zeros. That golf cart went for $10,000. My Dad who is has been a stake president for quite sometime has had to kick kids out for playing church ball. He would usually ask them how they got the keys, especially when they were just youth under 18 without an adult. And most of them just narrowed them from someone else. That is a HUGE no no. And guess what? Those kids were rich snobby popular kids. Keep in mind my father is a very nice and chill person for his age. He has more moderate approaches to his calling.
nibbler wrote:
When I was close to 24 someone at church told me, “wedon’t watch the Simpsons in our house.” and I could swear that the angle of their nose tilted upwards just a little when they said it… and this was back in the day when the worst the Simpsons were doing was building a shoddy monorail. I sure hope Little House on the Prairie, Highway to Heaven, and the Lawrence Welk Show didn’t come on TV on Sundays so they could watch something… if they even had a sinbox in their house.
:angel: :angel: Only thing you can do is not judge them for judging. It’s not as fun but it’s probably healthier.
You’re right! Screw them! haha. But it doesn’t really help that my Dad is the stake president. But that shouldn’t matter at all. Like why is it their business? There is that old saying “Don’t judge someone just because they sin differently than you do”. I don’t judge people, I don’t pretend to be some faithful saint either. I simply just mind my own business.
DarkJedi wrote:
Are you seeing a counselor? Colleges often offer counseling for free. My suggestion is bringing it up with a counselor.There’s also the issue of lying to your mom. Just an FYI, she probably knows you’re lying. Women, especially moms and wives, know these things.
Quote:Women always figure out the truth. Always.
(Han Solo)
That’s very true about women! They seem to have this sort of radar implanted in their brains. Trust me, I hate lying, I really do. But it’s sort of a catch-22 with this. Also, yes, I have been seeing a counselor. I see him about once a month back home. I prefer him because he is informed on what is going on. Also, he is LDS; so it does come in handy with that front.
mom3 wrote:
Sometimes we have brought it on ourselves.My goal is to be warm, friendly, kind, generous and human. I don’t proselyte, religiously debate, or wear LDS-ness on my sleeve. Not in fear, but out of courtesy. Jesus didn’t wear a badge announcing his name and mission. If he didn’t I won’t.
I agree with that first part of your statement 1 trillion percent. The church sometimes handles things quite poorly in my opinion and members being stubborn and doing things like “sticking” up for their beliefs in public circles isn’t very welcomed either. And that last part about being friendly and not wearing my LDSness on my sleeve, I take that same exact approach. No one needs to know my religion to be honest. I just try to be nice, warm and friendly like you. NEVER would I proselyte either. lol
I just get really sad when I come across these people. And it’s usually among the circles of people who claim to be the most tolerant of others as well. Interesting world we live in, right?
Roy wrote:
I would say that we are disliked to about the same degree as the JW’s.I believe that it is a combination of:
C) Self righteousness. I imagine that people who dislike Mormons have had bad interactions with Mormons that seemed to think that they were better, more righteous, more favored by God than their non-Mormon peers and classmates.
That’s probably a big one. That sort of thing I imagine would rub off quite a bit on people. For me for instance, I NEVER let people know my religious beliefs. Mostly because as many others have said here, it’s just not really the time and place. Also, being shy is another thing I deal with. So I guess in a way that’s quite a blessing in this situation. I’m the last type of person someone would pin as LDS. And, even if they somehow found out they would be shocked or think it was a joke.
Your feelings are not uncommon. You would be surprised. Many members honestly have mixed feelings regarding the man. However, a very common thing that I was told about this issue is that at the end of the day Joseph Smith is simply just a man, and was chosen to restore this church back to the earth. That is really all. What is important is your relationship with Christ, and nothing else should matter. But, as I have previously stated, your feelings are common and normal. I would recommend reaching out to your bishop or even your stake president. They will happily help you through this. It is also a good idea to maybe consult a close friend, or family member who is also a member of the church. Hope all is well!
Joni wrote:
I’ve mentioned before that I’ve had personal revelation, in the celestial room of the temple, that God doesn’t love me. (It’s okay that you don’t believe me. My husband doesn’t believe me, either. But I know what I experienced and I can’t deny it.)Well, last Friday God saw fit to take my husband’s job away. Again. For the fifth time (so far) since 2008. Despite us paying a full tithe this entire time. Despite every member of my family, including innocent children, praying for this exact thing NOT to happen.
This goes beyond God merely being indifferent. One layoff, you can chalk up to the bad economy. Two is supremely bad luck. But five? This sure feels a lot like God ACTIVELY HATING me and my family.
I find that I simply can’t pray anymore. I have nothing more to say to Him. It feels a lot like prayer is how we tell God what He should take away from us next. (For the last several years, my children’s prayers have also included the phrase ‘please bless that our house won’t catch fire.’ I fully expect that God will burn our house down any day now, just to teach me a lesson.)
This also puts all of the Church’s many many demands into perspective. They don’t come out and say it, but it’s at least IMPLIED that if you pay tithing/wear ugly underwear/serve in callings whether you like it or not/sit through boring meeting after boring , God will at least like you better than if you DON’T do those things. But I’ve found that there is nothing I can do to earn the least bit of favor in His eyes, so what the heck is my motivation for doing all these things?
I did tell my husband that I’m not praying anymore and to be fair, he hasn’t asked me to say the dinner prayers or anything. (But I’m fully prepared to make a hypocrite of myself, to avoid making a scene in front of the kids.) But I somehow have to go through the rest of my life like this and I’ve probably got forty years left.
One more thing that really galls me? God took away my husband’s job, despite hundreds of prayers to the contrary – yet He demands that we pay tithing on our unemployment checks. Ugh.
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Everyone’s situation is different. However, take it from someone who’s been struggling themselves with the Gospel: it will get better. Ask for help from the savior, and he will help you! It may not be right away and you may not see it right away; but he can help you. However, I totally understand where you’re coming from and at least you are being honest and upfront about it with your husband.
Something I’ve been told when I discuss my struggles is to serve others. Because when you are serving others, you are serving God. And regarding the “silly” underwear, I really honestly don’t think God cares THAT MUCH. I mean he does a little. But remember, he KNOWS what’s going on with us personally. As long as you are trying your best, he will take it. That’s really all he wants. Is for you to try try your best.
Hope things get better
DarkJedi wrote:We are all children of God, and love knows no bounds. If neither you nor she is going to make an issue of religion then it wouldn’t seem to matter. I do know of a couple of successful interfaith marriages as well. If what you really want is a temple marriage then you should do yourself a favor and move on.
A temple marriage really isn’t on my radarI’ve never been badgered. But that could be because in my previous ward my bishop totally forgot about me and I was lost in the cracks and now we moved so my name’s in a different ward. However, I’m a University student and I don’t really attend my student ward. But…to say the least I haven’t had a valid recommend for nearly 3 whole years. No one should be forced or pressured into attending the temple. It’s simply a personal choice and it’s between you and Christ. I experienced this sort of thing throughout my Youth in the church. Just don’t let it change your faith at all! Be strong. It is probably hard though, but just remember why yuo are part of this wonderful church in the first place. Once again, I’m so sorry this happened. Sadly, this is very common within the church. It’s something the leaders of the church absolutely hate To be honest it’s something I have never really understood. I think a lot of it has to do with why Young men and Young Women feel as if they need to go on a mission at 18 &19 now. Because everyone else is doing it. It’s really not something that I’ve fallen for though. 😆 Marriage seems like a waste of time in my opinion.Mike wrote:I agree with everything that’s been said. My only addition: at this point in your life, don’t place all your hopes on one girl.
I would even date women that are not in the church. It doesn’t mean that you need to be serious about marriage. Just compare &
contrast. See who you are compatible with & who you’re not.
I agree 100% with that statement
